10 Dumbest Gun Control Laws That Need To Be Repealed Right Away

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  1. rover77

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    The purpose of those laws are actually effective in doing what their proponents want to achieve

    Not deter criminals

    but to harass and impede honest gun owners
     
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    The purpose of those laws are to reduce gun deaths
     
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    Then why are they failing to do such?
     
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    So you admit we have an epidemic of gun deaths?
     
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    The united states has an epidemic of violence in general, with absolutely no need to separate it into specific categories and subcategories based entirely upon the implement that was used in any particular homicide.
     
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    Oh good. Well I believe gun control will help with that. Your mileage may vary. LOL
     
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    The belief held by yourself is indeed noted, however the history of the united states has shown conclusively that this is not the case. In fact it has been showing such to be the case for many decades now.
     
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    Well me and millions of others. So there's that
     
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    Yes, so those people killing and getting killed over Nike shoes ?
    How do you prevent / stop that type of violence ?

    Shoe violence ????
     
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    Which, again, are rebuffed by the history of the united states.
     
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    You are certainly entitled to that opinion
     
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    Well you can't stop it. No one can. But you can reduce it and gun control can help
     
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    Except that it is not opinion, but confirmed fact.

    "Can" is the operative word in the above statement. "Can" is not the same thing as "will" it implies theoretical possibility rather than confirmation of success. It is hypothesis and nothing more, and it is hypothesis that is not confirmed by history.
     
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    Show your evidence
     
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    Was it stupid to ban machine guns manufactured after 1986 when it appeared that the rules of NFA 1934 had successfully prevented their use in homicides?

    Was is stupid to ban rifles with barrels under 16"

    Why is 10 the magic number for magazine capacity? It didn't seem to stop the VT shooter.

    If all "assault weapons" magically disappeared overnight, what would be the likely result to the homicide rate and to mass shootings?
     
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    Would you care for the findings by the ATF, showing that the majority of firearms trafficked and illegally procured in the state of California, were originally sold in the state of California, and did not originate in outside states?

    What about how, prior to the McDonald ruling, nearly one hundred percent of all murders in the city of Chicago were committed with handguns, which could not be legally possessed by anyone in the city?

    Perhaps citations of how every recent mass shooter in the united states was able to legally purchase their firearms from a federally licensed dealer, thus showing that they possessed no disqualifying record that could have kept them from doing such?

    Or perhaps the citation of a firearms trafficker in the state of Illinois being given nothing more than probation and community service for numerous counts of knowingly supplying firearms to prohibited individuals, one of which led to the murder of a law enforcement officer?

    Or perhaps how the majority of charges for unlawful possession of a firearm in the state of Illinois are routinely dropped, and no charges are ever pursued against the guilty parties, even when the evidence of guilt is undeniable?
     
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    that is the specious facade those who wish to harass gun owners make

    some of the laws the anti gun side pushes have no hope of reducing gun deaths

    examples

    bans on modern machine guns-no deaths with the 300,000 machine guns owned by private citizens over the last 80 years

    restrictions on noise suppressors

    universal background checks

    Registration of firearms

    magazine bans

    other laws that only change the legal rights of people who can legally own guns
     
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    that is not a responsive answer to his question. His well made point is that if the stuff gun restrictionists push-magazine limits, waiting periods, "assault weapon bans" etc are actually designed to restrict criminals, how come those stupid laws have not done squat in reducing violent crime?

    is it because those who push them really don't care about stopping crime and push the laws to harass honest gun owners and to pander to low wattage voters who demand solutions to violent crime-even ones that don't work?
     
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    its either dishonest or a faith based belief that has no basis in reality. there is no evidence that any of the laws that restrict the rights of people who can legally own firearms, rather than punish criminals, do anything to decrease violent crime

    not the Gun control act of 68

    not the Brady Bill

    Not the Hughes Amendment

    Not the Clinton Gun ban

    Not registration in Hawaii

    Not the idiotic shell casing register in Maryland
     
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    why ban something (and the ban only applies to those mgs made after May 19, 1986) that has never been used by a private citizen for a murder in over 70 years? If cops use them in a civilian environment, other civilians ought to be at least able to own them
     
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    Tons of evidence . Europe, Canada, japan....etc, Gun control works
     
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    that is worthless because it has no relevance to the USA. But i note that you constantly complain about being called a gun banner yet you continually cite countries like Japan that essentially ban all guns

    You are wrong trying to compare a society where commoners were tortured to death for having a sword and where average citizens never were able to own guns vs a society where guns were widespread and until FDR, there were no federal attempts to limit gun ownership.
     

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