thought experiment...what if there were only electric vehicles "now"

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  1. Texan

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    I just asked for an explanation of how your idea works and raised some questions about it. You brought the idea up, explain how it is better than everybody else's. My small diesel generator suggestion is not part of the drive train either. I just don't see how your suggestion is practical due to the reasons I listed in my last post which you ignored to give me another insult.

    My expertise is electrical and not chemical, other than batteries and their maintenance, but I have extensive training in physics, chemistry, and math. I repaired military aircraft avionics for 10 years, I have a B.S. in Electronics from Chapman University, and I have worked on solid state industrial power electronics for 24 years. Why don't you give it a shot and try to explain the invention to me for your resonant engine idea? At least offer a link that explains it if you can't do it yourself.
     
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    I like this generator. It would be great for NASA in outer space to use with a solar collector for a heat source. If it really can get 80% efficiency, it's worth it. Diesels can't get much more than 50%. I worry about limitations in a car. To burn trash or whatever in it, it would require an oven and would hurt efficiency, safety, and emissions. What are the limitations on this engine in terms of weight/power and what temperature would need to be generated to charge a battery system large enough for a car? How dependable are they and who can work on them. I imagine they would be pretty dependable since they are sealed and no outside environment affects it other than temperature input. I imagine this technology is a few years out even if there are no downfalls to it. It still needs to be studied and tested so that it can be properly harnessed. There is also the ownership of the technology and patent issues before everyone can build one and put it on the market.

    It has promise, but until then, I'll suggest a diesel generator.
     
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    I dont wanna do all the cars, just mine :)
     
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    It is worth noting that electric vehicles can be charged anywhere there is an outlet and an adapter.

    Before departing the owner can charge their electric vehicle to full capacity and it would be prudent to keep it fully charged when they know that there is an impending hurricane.

    So the fallacy of having to "wait in lines at charging stations" is based upon the limitations of gasoline vehicles where you can ONLY get fuel from gas stations to fill up your vehicle.

    Owners of electric vehicles would be 200-300 miles away before needing to recharge and could probably do it from an outlet in a motel somewhere if they bring along an extension cord.
     
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    https://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/03...itano-debuts-with-evdrive-range-extended-cra/
     
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    On August 21 I travelled from my home in Vancouver B.C down to Salem, Oregon in my 2016 Chevy Volt to view the total eclipse. I have a device in my car that tracks each trip I take, the fuel consumption etc. When leaving Salem to return home, traffic was very heavy. It took us 3 hours 22 minutes to travel 111 km which is 68.9 miles. This is just one leg of the trip.

    At the start of that trip we had 78% of our battery remaining at the end we were at 28%. We used the ICE if we travel faster than about 50km/h. The ICE was used for 49% of the trip.

    We used 3.8 litres of fuel and 6.5 kWh of electricity. Our max speed was 119km/h (74 mph) but average was 33km/h (20 mph)

    (ICE = Internal Combustion Engine)

    Typically I only use my Volt to travel to and from work each day. The trip to work is about 20km (12.5 miles) but through the greater Vancouver area that trip can take anywhere from 25 minutes to 50 minutes depending on time of day. Normally if you spend that much time in slow moving traffic you are going to consume a lot of fuel just waiting for traffic lights to change etc. Each of these trips cost me $0 for fuel consumption whereas I used to spend $300 or more in a month on fuel. (Gas is never less than $1.20/litre in Vancouver which is about $5.50/gallon).

    Since I bought the car In February 2016, I have travelled 23,730 Km (14,745 miles), 19,594 km (12,175 miles) have been using the electric motor. 88% electric/12% ICE.
     
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    However, these people were evacuating from south Florida. An hour of A/C will "drain the battery" some.
     
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    Reads like quackery to me. TANSTAAFL
     
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    Looks like quackery to me. There's no way it can do anything that is claimed. Just based on the laws of thermodynamics, any extra energy generated by the bumps should be negated by the extra energy to drive up the bumps.
     
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    The vehicle is in production.
     
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    Not according to the Manila Times article.

    Again, the mistruths. That's the way con artists work.
     
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    https://cleantechnica.com/2015/05/0...-double-range-regenerative-suspension-system/



     
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    I don't buy it. The numbers are too good. I can buy the 10% mentioned in the article, but 100%, I'd have to see a third party lab do the measurements. I also don't see where they got the 100%. The German manufacturer claims 50%.
    http://www.interpatent.de/unsere_innovationen_strom_aus_der_federung_en.html

    Also, your quotes talk about two different products--the Levant in the first (which claims, what I see as a realistic 10% improvement, and the Intertronic Gesser in the second (which in it's own website claims over 50%, but in the weird quote from your article claims 100%). Please quote more accurately.
     
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  16. perdidochas

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    I still don't buy it. I think it's a load of quackery, and until I read of an independent testing lab testing it, I will keep that conclusion. When something seems to good to be true, it usually is.
     

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