American Jews Are Starting Wars, Jewish Former CIA Spy Valerie Plame Wilson Retweets

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    Here's an excerpt from an interesting article from Newsweek that was published a couple of days ago:
    http://www.newsweek.com/americans-j...sh-former-cia-spy-valerie-plame-wilson-669118

    And here's more information about Valerie Plame Wilson:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame

    So what do you think about the former CIA officer Philip Giraldi's claims, folks? Are they true? Are "American" jews really zionist warmongers who care more about Israel than their host country? Do they control American media and politics? Or are these just "antisemitic conspiracy theories"?

    As always, all opinions are welcome.
     
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    The narrative of the all-powerful jewish cabal is old and influential. Harretz and Wilson are trying to use that to their benefit. It's a lot easier to take advantage of narratives than to engage with them.

    Nobody is in control of anything, let alone everything.
     
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    I'm glad that you're amused, Dutch. Here's another article from Haaretz which says that jewish neocons are responsible for the disastrous Iraq war:
    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/white-man-s-burden-1.14110
     
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    Is Robert Kagan an immigrant and if yes, was he ever naturalized? If he's Amerikan either through naturalization or by the virtue of being born in Amerika, why do you imply he is not Amerikan? Is it because he's a Joo, and the Joos do not belong in Amerika?
     
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    Some american jews really are zionist war mongers who care more about israel than america.

    Its a fact that jews are disproportionately represented in a number of industries, including many forms of media.

    Its a fact that american zionist jews form a powerful political lobby in washington.

    Yes Israel's right wing government is agitating against Iran - go figger them not liking nation run by religious fanatics who have sworn to exterminate it.

    None of those statements is anti-semitic.

    OTOH, giraldi cements these facts together with a mortar of bias, opinion, speculation and just a pinch of "global jewish conspiracy" anti semitism.
     
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    :machinegun:Whadda good Idea ! :mrgreen::nana:
    Sometimes Dutchy comes up with these statements of Genius
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    but all comedy aside
    BTW - for your Info - Phil Giraldi also makes a pretty good case
    in support of Valarie Plame's contention - That there is a clique of Neo Con War Mongers
    ...........in control of much of America's Foreign policy, and that many of them are Jewish
    ....................................................It is a simple FACT and may be accounted - Indisputable

    Read the list & you can't deny it without suffering a serious bout of Cognitive Dissonance

    America's Jews Are Driving U.S. Wars
    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47843.htm
     
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    Am I getting on your nerves THAT bad?

    Good :love:
     
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    Nope, they are wrong. Putin rules the world. He's so powerful, he can swing an entire election from landslide to defeat with just a few facebook ads. I'm sure Putin is running the Jews.
     
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    Congratulations on finally getting it. No dupe you.
     
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    Scary thing is, you actually believe that...
     
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    O my gosh----Frosingslosh! You gleaned this from an Israeli publication?
    Must be true. I guess you believe the gibberish that Trump vomits, too.
     
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    Who cares what they say? I know that I don't give a rats ass.
     
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    Getting what?
    If you believe that "Putin is running the Jews", then it is you who is the dupe.
     
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    Re:
    Obviously, SOME Jews in the US government are or else the US government wouldn't be supportive of Israel's ally, ISIS and, especially, a war with Iran.
    The ones who are most loyal to Israel over America's best interests are most like to howl "anti Semitism" etc the loudest at being exposed via independent media & by threads like this.

    - "Netanyahu & the Lobby Cowboy Up For War With Iran"
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/netanyahu-the-lobby-cowbo_b_3611038.html

    EXCERPT "But Netanyahu’s fear-mongering has made a difference. The Israel lobby here has made confronting Iran the centerpiece of its activities on Capitol Hill, successfully drafting and easily convincing both Democrats and Republicans to enact sanctions that punish the Iranian people along with resolutions making clear that the U.S. will go to war if Iran doesn’t give up its nuclear program."CONTINUED


    - "Pro-Israel lobby backs US strikes on Syria"
    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/09/20139414329291833.html
     
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    Obviously there is truth to this. And yet, it isn't all jews, or even lots of them, but a small group who are wealthy. And in DC, money talks, bullcrap walks. This is the problem with our gov't. We got the best gov't for the elites that money can buy.

    And don't forget the most powerful group in the world, private sector. The big bankers. Some of jewish but not all, and all of these sociopaths in banking regardless of ethnicity, are greed driven bastards. They have an allegiance to no nation, and no people. Especially the american people. Parasites every damn one of them.
     
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    I thought the sarcasm was obvious. mea culpa
     
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    In reference to your assertion:
    There's no doubt that AIPAC and related Zionist organizations dictate America's Mid East trade & military policy, the question is how.
    You're right in that money is a tool of AIPAC etc but it's only one of their many tools to control members or our government.

    One popular tool is "Educational" junkets such as the following:

    "53 Congressional reps, a dozen Latino leaders, & top political operatives on all expense paid trips to Israel"
    https://israelpalestinenews.org/53-...tent&eId=c824af1e-7065-4328-a00b-20ae8ee6e076


    EXCERPT "At least 53 Congressional representatives are on a week-long trip to Israel, paid for by the American Israel Education Foundation (AIEF), an arm of the powerful lobbying group AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee).

    AIEF’s budget is approximately $80 million, which it uses to take diverse groups to Israel. More than a dozen Latino leaders from the Southwest U.S. have just returned from an AIEF funded five-day trip to Israel that ended Aug 6, and a trip for top political operatives was conducted in June."CONTINUED


    In additional to financial donations both overt & covert, Zionist lobbies are especially adept at criminal means of persuasion America's government officials to support everything from wars for Israel to billions in covert aid.

    In fact, ALL aid to Israel is illegal under the Symington amendment but as we have seen time and time again Israel is above the law when it comes to sacrificing American blood & resources:

    "How the Israel Lobby Controls US Foreign Policy in the Middle East"
    https://parapoliticaljournal.com/20...ontrols-us-foreign-policy-in-the-middle-east/

    EXCERPT" If it’s considered important enough to oust a suspected enemy of the State of Israel, orchestrated programs can involve any number of dirty tricks to include black mail, bribery, frame jobs, cyber attacks and, of course, threats to one’s character, livelihood, and even life. Again, it’s all a question of severity and how much of a threat (or rather perceived threat) someone in an established powerful position is to what Israel views as their national interests, i.e. Machiavellian dominance. You can bet that what works well for CIA goes double for Mossad."CONTINUED
     
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    My fault. I didn't get it. I am usually not so dense, I think.
     
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    Like I said no dupe you.\

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    Not sure they are still in business but they may have left a forwarding URL in the GRU net.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency

    Start there and I'm sure you will be directed to the appropriate on line job application.
     
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    Giraldi and Plame are highly credible IMO. They have both been marginalized by the authorities for telling too much truth. He was just fired by one of the neocon magazines for statements such as these.

    For a period of time, the Chief Of Staff in the White House was Rahm Immanuel an Israeli citizen like Lieberman and others. Another Israeli citizen, Dov Zakheim went to work in the pentagon during the Reagan administration, and was a very integral figure there at 911.

    AIPAC and the entire Israeli lobby is very influential inside the beltway.

    Giraldi and Plame are likely telling the brutal truth, and that has the Israeli lobby very upset.
     
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    This isn't exactly news.
     
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