Toms River, New Jersey Mayor Decries 'Invasion' of Hasidic Jews

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  1. ibobbrob

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    No. They should be slapped upside their heads and told to take a shower once in a while.
     
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    It isn't arrogance its knowledge and understanding. I made a universal observation on the nature of human interaction. Granted it can be nuanced but it isn't rocket science.


    Don't be a clown. You didn't "ask" you made a stupid statement that it was difficult to find such stories. I find that even more interesting.

    Pretty sick stuff. Can you name a nation or culture that doesn't have some sort of porno going on? A quick search reveals There's quite the demand for german nazi porno at pornhub . But you knew that.
     
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    No, I specifically asked you to give me some examples. Here's my post again:
    Well? I'm waiting...
     
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    sounds like a federal matter
     
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    Can't be bothered since willful ignorance is impossible to overcome.
     
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    What really may help is knowing that Orthodox doesn't mean what you think it means. Everything you wrote is false.

    The Orthodox Jews may be Haredi, or Haredi Leumi, or National Religious, or Liberal Modern, or Traditional, or Secular. The ultra-Orthodox Haredi may belong to the Neturei Karta, or Nachmanis, or Chabad, or Hassidim.

    Women are not forced to give up seats or even get off public buses. Some ultra-Orthodox in Jerusalem have their own private buses and they ask women to sit in the back of the bus. Their own women, not someone else's. Because there's no law that tells women where to sit, it's impossible to tell them not to sit in the back of the bus if they choose to. Women can choose not to board those buses, but I guess some of them feel it's appropriate to sit in the back. There's no such thing as gender - or other kind of - discrimination on public buses.

    Women are allowed at the holy shrines, including the Western Wall. I was there last Wednesday with a large group of other women. Took pictures with my phone:

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    See the women?
     
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    You've been told before that the situation in Israel shouldn't be compared with the situation in Western European countries, but with the situation in other Middle Eastern countries, because this is where Israel is and those are the countries we need to deal with for our survival.

    An analysis of the situation in Western Europe would be too complex for this topic, and completely pointless, since Ovadia Yosef didn't talk about Western Europeans.
     
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    Hey man, you can't explain away or condone or excuse that nutbar Yosef. Just like Americans can't explain away or condone or excuse Pat Robertson.

    Ovadia is a bigot by any definition you wish to use. On the whole I have found that jews are no more or less bigoted than anyone else.

    Not that these facts will deter some from posting negative stories about Israel and jews, regardless of their accuracy because such is the nature of bigotry.
     
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    I think it's remarkable that you're trying to defend this despicable jewish racist - and his countless followers. Yes, yes, you're entitled to your opinion, but still...
    He clearly said non-jews. That means anybody who isn't a jew.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovadia_Yosef

    This horrible jewish supremacist was so influential that Israel's prime minister asked him for advice, and when he died over 800,000 jews attended his funeral. Now, what does that say about Israel and the jewish community? Seriously?
     
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    If you're gonna compare a cobra with something, you have to compare it with another snake, not with a rose. That was my point.
     
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    May I remind you your own words? Please?

    You specifically asked about Western personalities who say NON-WHITES should be exterminated. Non-whites, not Western Europeans.

    Now if you asked for respected, influential and bigoted Western personalities with countless followers who made controversial statements and still enjoy popularity, well...those are not so hard to find.

    The point you're trying to make is that all Jews are bad because Ovadia Yosef was respected in certain circles despite his controversial statements. You imply that everybody who respected and asked him for advice agreed with his every word. Well, prove it. Prove that every Israeli politician who ever talked to him agreed with his every word. Prove that all the 800,000 Jews who attended his funeral agreed with his every word.

    Pfftt.
     
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    Are you serious? If a Western religious or political leader (a priest, mayor, congressman, etc.) were to say that jews or other non-whites should be exterminated, or that their only purpose in life is to serve white people, what do you think would happen? Do you think that the people, media, church and political establishment would say "Well, we don't agree with his views on non-whites, but he's still a good person and he's good at his job, so we'll let that one pass"?

    The answer is: of course not. If a Western religious or political leader were to make such a statement, he would be crucified by the media and the establishment, and he would be out of a job in a second.

    This never happened to chief rabbi Ovadia Yosef, though. He was still extremely respected in Israel and in the jewish diaspora, and as I said in one of my previous posts, Israel's prime minister asked him for advice, and when he died over 800,000 jews attended his funeral. Such a thing would never happen in a Western country.
     
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    Today the State Department has officially stopped all Russian people from travelling to the US. Ominous isn't it? Maybe we should start taking our heads out of the sand, and start looking around to see what's being done in our name... as well as what the future holds.

    The reason for this is that Russia kicked out diplomats (CIA Agents), so as to equalize Washington's diplomatic staff to the same amount of personnel as the Russians have in the US. This was done in response by Russia to the theft of Russian property in the US by Obama, which Trump refused to return without getting some favors in return. Extortion anyone? Seems nothing is beneath us now?

    Here are a few excerpts from an excellent article in the Duran:

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    Above the half-witted mainstream media’s shrill noise about Charlottesville’s George Soros funded, statue-destroying, history-erasing, tattooed LGBT left-wing anarchists, we can hear something far more frightening. We hear the gargantuan growling curses of cannibal giants—the morally lobotomized military industrial complex—hiding in the darkness, scraping swords against stones and cracking knuckles, as they prepare to clash; and in the process of their reckless grappling, crush civilization and crumble landscapes. The question is what will trigger their fight?


    The U.S. justification for this action, so we’re told, is because the Russian government had previously ordered U.S. State Department staff (CIA agents) to leave Russia in order to create a more equal number of Russians and Americans working in each others’ embassies. Of course, what is conveniently ignored is that in December 2016 President Obama, in violation of international law, seized the Russian Government’s summer house and property in the Washington DC metro area, and Trump has continued the crime by refusing to return the Russian property without getting some kind of “benefit” in return. Extortion anyone?

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    The supreme law of the land is the Constitution, and it is clear: no federal or state law, statute, code, or policy can exist that violates or undermines any part of the Constitution. Anything that does, is unlawful and has no authority over citizens. The reason for America’s obscenely immoral Congress is because they have abandoned and hated the idea of truth animating all government laws and actions.

    Let us always remember that truth is the union between a people and their government. Truth is the life force behind all law, and the U.S. Constitution; it is the substance of contracts; it is the light guiding man’s righteous claim and defense of his inalienable rights; it is the spirit of a responsible and benevolent self-government.


    Truth is the soul of justice, the shape of love, and the sound of peace. But sadly the corruption of man, his lusts, and selfish pride reject this principle in exchange for the shifting sands of pleasure and popular opinion.

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    By ignoring truth when making law, Congress destroys both. Without truth, there is no semblance of government authority, there is only the tyranny of DEEP STATE bureaucrats who channel fear to continue their power.
     
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    Srsly?

    Never heard of Jeremy dances-with-Hezbollah Corbyn, leader of the British Labour Party? The respected politician who said Hezbollah are his friends? You know, the Hezbollah whose leader, cowering in a bunker in Lebanon since the last confrontation with Israel in 2006, had openly declared that his organization's goal is to kill all the Jews worldwide. Is Corbyn hanging on a cross?

    Pfftt with a cherry on top.
     
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    Pisa: It's both hilarious and sad that you would compare the respected, anti-racist politician Jeremy Corbyn to the racist, bloodthirsty, genocidal jewish supremacist Ovadia Yosef - and that you would use a ridiculous, over-the-top propaganda piece by the infamous zionist and torture advocate Alan Dershowitz to "prove" your claim.

    Wan: Thank you for yet another excellent post. I'm very happy that you choose to write in my threads.
     
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    My source is not Dershowitz. You obviously didn't bother to read the article. The source is an interview with Nasrallah in the New York Times.

    What is hilarious is your ideological flip-flop from "bad pro-Muslim Jews" to "good pro-Muslim Corbyn". I'll probably ignore your posts from now on. Dishonesty is not my cup of tea.
     
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    I have never flip-flopped.
    I never said that I support Corbyn, or that I agree with his politics. I said that he's a "respected, anti-racist politician", and that's true.
    And this is coming from a person who compares the racist, bloodthirsty, genocidal jewish supremacist Ovadia Yosef to Jeremy Corbyn? I'll let our readers draw their own conclusions.
     
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    Here's an excerpt from an article by the famous jewish feminist Andrea Dworkin, which is about how Israeli men treat women:
    http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/IsraelII.html

    And here's what the well-known jewish writer and social activist Naomi Klein has to say about this subject:
    http://www.naomiklein.org/articles/2010/03/protecting-israel-s-lawlessness-spying-and-smear-campaign

    Naomi Klein

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    No, I only see a message that says that you need to update your account. But it doesn't really matter.
     
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    Here's an article about ultra-orthodox jews in New Jersey that was published yesterday:
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-new-jersey-orthodox-20170923-story.html
     
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    This is the same kind costly issue inbreeding Arab Miuslims bring with them:

    From OP's link:
    ..". A report by the Asbury Park Press found that Lakewood had received 14% of the money from a $34-million state fund for catastrophic illnesses in children, despite having only 2% of the state’s children. It also found that the town had 29 times more grant recipients than any other town in New Jersey."
     
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    There's another scandal in today's news about large communities of ultra orthodox Jews in NJ involved in massive welfare fraud.
     
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    That's right, Margot. I'm bumping my post with the link to the LA Times article about it, in case some of our readers missed it:
     
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    Its surprising to me that such religious people would be involved in massive fraud.
     
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    I'm surprised that you're surprised considering how common this is. Here's an article about how a jewish religious leader and his collaborators stole over 12 million dollars from disabled children:
    http://nypost.com/2014/05/13/four-busted-for-stealing-12m-from-special-needs-preschool/#

    And I have read many similar articles.

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    You learn something new everyday as I never knew before reading this thread that Jews are not consider whites.

    Hmm so given Jesus background he would not also be consider white I would assume......LOL
     
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