Why can't capitalism stop its excesses, greed, and other damaging characteristics?

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I offered counterpoints. Instead of arguing against their merits you simply attack and obfuscate

    No you offered room only for confirmation of your bias.

    I have no interest in being part of your echo chamber.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Rott in your echo chamber than.
     
  3. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    News Flash: the Democrats are not leftists. They are solidly pro-establishment and pro-capitalism.
     
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    Kode Well-Known Member

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    Cry all you want. I answered your "points" in post 49.
     
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    1) and so slowly starving 120 million to death is the best in the human psyche???
    2) average Venezuelan losing 17 lbs in last year is best in human psyche
    3) Cubans living on only island concentration camp in world where boats are illegal is best in human psyche

    100% and total irrational hatred of capitalism is bigotry and nothing more
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Socialism and communism are the alternatives and they are both even worse than capitalism in the excesses, greed and damage department. Some people are greedy and they will find a way to be greedy and gain excess no matter what the economic system. Capitalism does the most good for the most people and gives the most opportunity to the most people so in an imperfect world it's the best system.
     
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    Sanders is now head Democrat with highest polls in America. He is Democrat leftist libcommie.
     
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    in a imperfect world capitalism is the perfect system. It forces capitalists to raise our standard of living at the fastest possible rate just to survive. Switch to other systems and world population would start shrinking by billions of dead human beings.
     
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    Since there has never been a finished, or stable, or established socialist economy anywhere, and since a communist economy has not even been attempted, you cannot know what you claim to know about them.
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't believe in perfect anything but capitalism IMO is the closest to perfection of any economic system there is.
     
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    No country has seen the growth ours did until progressives took over govt. Soviet famines and death was pretty common then. Success?
     
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    What I know is wherever communism is tried it fails.
     
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    There is a reason for that. Economies always crash long before they get that far.
     
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    yes but just because 120 of million died trying to get to communism does not mean
    we should give up. I suggest we set a limit of 500 million slowly starved to death before we give up!
     
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    Yeah with the conflation between corporatism and capitalism.

    You clearly don't know what you are talking about.
     
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    ...in your opinion. But how about the subject of the thread which is the unavoidable excesses of capitalism? Don't you see any?
     
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    From nation-wide poverty to superpower status in 68 years? You're dreaming. The US never matched that.
     
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    Where has there been classless society and a "withered" state? If you knew what you're talking about you would know communism cannot be imposed. It evolves naturally from the correct conditions.
     
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    Obviously anyone who sees a meaningful difference between corporatism and capitalism is the one who doesn't know what he's talking about. Small-business capitalism grows into big corporation corporatism. They are both capitalism because corporatism is an advanced form of capitalism since in all capitalism there is private ownership of business for private profit. I told you that earlier and you haven't refuted it. Try. You know you can't. So they're one and the same and you know it.
     
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    USSR? Where is it now?
     
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    Capitalism has raised the standard of living of more people than any other economic system in the world. Greed has nothing to do with that. Wealth creation is responsible for that increase in the standard of living.

    Please name a few of these so-called excesses.

    Command/Control economics does not work.
     
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    totally 100% backwards. you are trying to say libertarianism is an advanced form of capitalism.
    corporatism is when business and govt combine as in Obamacare or socialism. Capitalism is when business and govt separate. Advanced capitalism is when they separate even more.

    Did you ever see a capitalist who thought Obamacare corporatism crony capitalism was capitalist??You must understand now?
     
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    it does?????????? where has it evolved naturally? so you don't have to kill 10's of millions of innocent people like Stalin and Mao did to create the "correct conditions"? Interesting that you are so attracted to the greatest genocides in human history!
     
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    you mean because it slowly starved 120 million to death? To say it does not work is a bit of an understatement. Liberals have a odd attraction to these genocides. Who can explain it?
     
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    Yes - but control/command comes in many different forms. All of which are being (for the most part) discarded by the world's nations. Yergin and Stanislaw document this country by country in "The Commanding Heights" - 2002. The book is a bit dated but the reforms are being continued through today with some obvious exceptions (Venezuela).
     
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