Stop Pretending You're A Patriot

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Cigar, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. Gatewood

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    Yep; after Gorn made such a total -- um -- leftist of himself over the 2016 presidential campaign and THEN his side lost he vanished for a time and then resurfaced as exactly the same troll under a different identity.
     
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    Why can’t they ever just stay gone. Lol. Quite a few of them that need to just vanish. Forever.
     
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    what the heck are you talking about, were talking about bad cops, not good cops - there is a difference you know

    what the left wants is good cops, that treat everyone equally and fairly, bad cops effect people of all races

    not everyone is cut out to be a cop, just like not everyone is cut out to be a doctor, ect...

    the cop that went after that nurse and harassed her and the victim of that accident is an example of a bad cop, you don't have to draw a weapon to be a bad cop, you just have to do bad cops things - any paid vacation that cop got for his actions, he should have to pay back to the tax payers and he should be barred from ever being a cop again

    in the police state you want... no one is better off, there is no justice as the police are above the law and can do no wrong

    the local DA and the police work together, there is a conflict of interest in them handling the case and same with the local police, the investigation and prosecution should be at the federal level - just like if you rob a post office, that is a federal crime

    in that case, the officer that was investigating the victim, he was partly the cause of the victims accident, thus had a conflict of interest, and we see how that worked out, we need to avoid conflicts of interest like that - not one cop lifted a hand to protect the victims in that case, cause it was their brother in blue harassing the victims
     
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    There are 12,000,000 arrests or police interactions per year. Of those, we have a few handful of police interactions that were negative.

    One of you lefties cited the number of wrongful police encounters and I think it came up to .0000061%. I could be off by one one-hundred-thousandth.

    This is just some imaginary excuse for you guys to whine. Every position has a few bad apples. There are people in the military who have given away state secrets. Corrupt politicians (most of them are), teachers that hookup with students...

    These are people, not machines. They will do stupid ****. Get over it
     
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    Can't argue with this one, but at least many Trump voters realize he isn't who he said he was or he has been turned by those near him.
    Too bad the Obama bots didn't do the same.
    Also what choice did the Trump voters really have? To vote and hope or to vote for a demonic thugett?

     
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    yes, good cops out number bad cops, bad cops exist and we should be ever vigilant that we are not allowing bad cops to wear a badge when discovered

    just like rape victims, not all report they are victims, same is true of bad cops... you stats only count the bad cops that were caught, not the many that were not or were and got away with it

    many feel no one will believe them, all cops must be required by law to wear their copcams at all times, and an independent 3rd party review them
     
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    Sorry Charlie. Bad cops, bad soldiers, bad teachers, bad citizens, bad pilots, bad executive producers, are always going to exist. Why? Because they are HUMAN BEINGS.
     
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    To some Democrats, patriotism means cheering Kim Jung Un and ISIS, while spitting on or burning the American flag.
     
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    The NFL protesters might as well be waving Confederate and North Korean flags, demanding their right to own black slaves in their protesting the national anthem.
     
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    I say bad cops when discovered should be fired, and you reply with that?

    can't we just agree bad cops are not cop material and should not be wearing a badge

    the difference is when a normal person abuses a citizen, they are charged with assault, kidnapping, ect.. a bad cop often just gets a paid vacation
     
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    If, in an effort to highlight the injustices done to Native Americans I decided to publically punch you in the nose, would you consider my action to be about Native American injustice, or would you consider it to be about your nose?

    Why is the principle any different when kneeling during the National Anthem?
     
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    Leftists and rightist, when neighbors can't talk to one another because politics has become divisive...I would blame both sides.
     
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    Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd . . . you would be wrong. Leftists attack this nation, it's every tradition and traditional value structure. That's pretty much all they do anymore. I no longer tolerate nation-haters; and that appears to be the mindset of most Right of Center citizens as well. The Left has collectively and finally pushed us too far. We are not going to back down and go along to get along. Not . . . any . . . more.
     
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    Trump sat on his butt and talked all the way thru Retreat as the flag was being lowered on a military base..

    He's the worst sort of hypocrite.

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    What came before Trump's tweets? Football players "taking a knee". Get your facts straight.

    You are correct, it isn't really about the flag and anthem, its about a batch of clowns and their supporters who hate America and express it by being disrespectful to the flag and anthem.
     
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    We've been through this. If you tolerate trump, or his supporters, and especially if you are a trump supporter, you not only tolerate nation-haters, you support them.
     
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    But you stand by perfectly quietly and not "offended" by trump. You aren't really offended. They are just on the wrong team for you.
     
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    Like.. they want to "make America great?"
     
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    What about being shouted at for just wearing an American Flag bow tie? Is it being too patriotic to wear a bow tie flag? Do I stop Communist flag bow tie people when they want to buy a book from the Capitalist R US store? Of course not. So why does a Communist Bookstore in Berkeley CA stop a bow tie American flag man wishing to enter and buy a Commie book?

    Why, one would think, the Berkeley Communist party would LOVE to sell Communist ideology to American flag wearing people. but I guess they would be engaging in a form of economy they despise, Capitalism, by selling the book in the 1st place, so they must just give books away freely, but only to those showing TRUE desire to be a Communist. The funding for the bookstore of course, from redistributed currency via Government coercion, of the very people wearing American flags whom the Communists are denying to sell the book.
     
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    Giess you made my point, have a great day
     
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    Yes, but then again it's equivalent to reading a litany of MSNBC/DNC ideological and political bullet points on every issue that arises. No intellectualism whatsoever, just raw emotionalism presented at lightspeed, and so I submit that these leftist trolls do serve a handy purpose as they expose what the typical and mindlessly indoctrinated liberal/leftist/progressive/quasi Socialist or Marxist BELIEVE at their root core being.
     
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    You expect me to care what you say about what I think or believe? Wow! You MUST be a leftist.
     
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    One of the big issues with politics and political discussion is that nobody wants to be realistic, they fear if they acknowledge any flaw the other side will claim some kind of sueriority because they will not do that.

    Most Trump supporters I know are bothered by aspects of Trumps style. We know he lacks diplomacy, we know he speaks when he should have just kept his mouth shut.
    NOBODY is perfect- and those that pretend that they are or that their candidate of philosophy is are full of BS and short on character.

    Trump is a person who can make things happen. He's a person who has long term objectives, and knows that success is something that requires time and a string of the right decisions. A smart businessman doesn't plan for tomorrow- he plans for 5-10 years ahead, then does what is needed today in order to be where he needs to be then. In the meantime, all those who want "easy" right now bitch about the plan and want to gut it. There WILL be friction. Not being a politician- Trump isn't worried with the whinos like most politicians are.

    Given that the history of our politics is to bluster and blow smoke up the people's skirt while getting nothing done, to fix every problem with a band-aid that will have to be fixed again because it is short sighted, to increase debt endlessly- A lot of people decided that such politics had to stop, they are self-destruction in office. Hell yes there will be friction.

    He's there because nobody else who ran, most likely NO existing politicians could change the course- they are all part of the same good ol boys group who place re-electikon and retention of power and raising of money ahead of the national welfare and future.

    I'm more offended by where our politicians have taken us, by far, than I am by the gruff nature of a businessman trying to turn it around.
    How about you? Are you aware that keeping incompetent people in office because they smile and tell you what you want to hear is a total absence of good judgement?
    Do you care?

    I'd like to leave my grandchildren a nation that was solvent, honorable and respectable. Lip service and baby-kissing won't get it.
    Trump may not be able to do it either, we may already be past the point where we can restore our own integrity and self-respect.
     
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    Non sequitur much ?
     
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    I see the kneeling players as expressing solidarity with the loathsome Kaepernick, who was not showing respect for anything with his ridiculous protest. Hope he's enjoying his down time.
     

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