Will USA Military If Ordered Fire On Americans

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  1. Guess Who

    Guess Who Well-Known Member

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    Well they already have almost a century ago. After WW1 and right before WW11 The Bonus Army vets were fired on and some killed by our military led by Patton, Eisenhower and McArthur. No wonder Eisenhower later warned us about the military industrial complex.


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    Wrong video now it is fixed.
     
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    With so many subversive groups in America these days and many threatening violence I could see some instances where it would be justified. For instance American born jihadists committing an act of terror at an event where there is military in place supporting law enforcement. The same is true of any group that turns violent towards other Americans or law enforcement. Any sort of insurrection needs to be dealt with force commensurate with the severity of the threat. In my opinion if you show up at an event organized and armed you are declaring yourself a beligerent and a combatant so it's game on. It's funny that some Americans are now plotting to overthrow the government and have already made their presence known. When Obama was in office he prayed every day for something like this to happen by members of the Tea Party et al but it never happened. Obama made it very clear that he thought that all Americans were fair game for any reason that occurred to him and those groups denied him a reason. I think that to date President Trump has shown great restraint with these militant idiots but that may change.
     
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    Soldiers will kill who they are ordered to kill. They shot a bunch of armed kids at Kent State. You think they would hesitate before killing a bunch of armed retards screaming about overthrowing the government>
     
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    What do you think the civil war was all about? A lot of Americans killing each other because they were ordered to do so.,

    Of course the military will kill anybody if ordered to do so. It's what they are trained to do.
     
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    We need more people like Newton Knight, who are willing to desert the army and actively high against it.
     
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    Well we're loading the military up with illegals and non Americans.....
     
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    Some might, most wouldn't. I certainly would refuse unless it was absolutely necessary to defend myself.
     
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    Not really. But basically you could say that I guess it does say both foreign and domestic. I just heard of this recently and was surprised that it happened. And I consider myself a history buff.
     
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    Yes we are as evidenced by the manuvers in Tampa and Miami that was another shocker. They were practicing urban warfare with our troops. Including Russia ,Japan etc, if my memory serves me.
     
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    What about if we are fighting armed retards threatening to kill Americans? Liek the Antifa groups? Will they keep letting them attack us or allow foreign cartels and gangs to kill and sell drugs to our children? Not that the kids are innocent but look at how foolish youth can be. And the kind of society we left them.
     
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    Well we bombed a US city from the air and Bush Jr and Obama did kill American citizens with out due process .
     
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    Bless your heart just don't be a martyr and be careful.
     
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    Yes we are looking more like a police state hope it is not true. I really don't think so yet and hope it never comes to that.
     
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    Antifa is trying to overthrow the government. They need to be careful.
     
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    You should reconsider the "moderate" label in your avatar.

    First, things have changed quite a bit over the past 100 years.

    Second, military personnel are only required to follow lawful orders.

    Third, Posse Comitatus prevents the use of Federal troops, but not the National Guard since that's State. That wasn't the US Army firing on Kent State students, that was Ohio citizens firing on them by order of the Governor. I doubt that type of thing would happen again .

    Lastly, as much as the Left Wing hates the military, both state and federal, our modern, all-volunteer military is too professional to attack their fellow citizens.
     
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    Are you talking about the police raid in Philly?

    Any American citizen who is a leader of a terrorist organization warring on the United States from a foreign country is an enemy combatant. I have no sympathy for enemies attacking innocent Americans.
     
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    You mean like gangbangers or la rasa?

    Cuz white folks would not be stupid enough to present a target like that
     
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    Well the north was, the southerners didn't need orders
     
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    Besides that ( i remeber watching it on televsion ) when they bombed black wall street in the 1920s

    https://www.democracynow.org/2016/9/22/tulsa_still_faces_historical_trauma_from


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    Basically, they would, but not in the way leftists fantasize about
     
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    Agreed. The Southerners were just defending themselves against the Northern invaders.
     
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    We used to have slavery and women couldn't vote either. Things have changed even since the 1960s. Not LWers, of course, but our military certainly has matured in the 50 years since Vietnam.
     
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    And what about the Bonus Army??
     
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    Our military men are sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. And that's precisely what I expect the vast majority of them will do. They will side with whoever is defending the Constitution... And today, that's not progressives.
     

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