Data shows a downward demographic spiral for Republicans

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  1. upside222

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    Well, you just keep on dreaming that the Marxist Democrats have a message that the American people are buying!
     
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    And when those younger people of color become adults they are going to find out painfully that the white minority can not be taxed any more to support the majority.
     
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    In California you are not allowed to manage your own life. Every aspect of your life is regulated by the state from what kind of crapper you can take a crap in, how long a shower you take to even what kind of gun you can use to protect your family and home.

    "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
    Ronald Reagan

     
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    I'm never lived in California, but done enough read-up to know the quantity of regulations as well as their reach into absurdity exceeds all others.
     
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    And yet most of your entrepreneurs live there and is the center of technology.
     
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    While that is true, I think it relates to the fact that you go where a particular skill is concentrated. Lot of smart people in California, in terms of technology. In terms of law- requiring dairy farmers to capture cow farts? Not exactly brilliant, but the law passed.... and that has to make wonder if California doesn't have an epidemic of delusion about everyday things.

    While climate and tech talent may keep the tech companies there, the laws don't keep their money there. Apple used corporate structure strategy to minimize both Federal and Calif state taxes- big-time. Apple is hardly alone in this. Google, for example, has a post office box (box number 666) in Bermuda and claims $8 billion of its revenue is made there. Most Silicon Valley tech companies engage in this.

    It's all strategy.
     
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    If you like freedom,,,you wouldn't like California.

    Even someone higher up has had enough with California and turned some of the most liberal areas of California into burning Hell holes this week.
     
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    I wonder when robots will start paying income taxes ?

    I see the future, we are all going to become porch monkeys.
     
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    LOL. Funny, but the comment touches on both the problem and the solution. Well before the Luddites became popular, people have feared technological progress. Robots don't pay taxes, but they also don't buy anything either. They produce, but without people to buy their products, they're an expensive assets producing products with no buyers.
     
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    If I were young today there is one profession I wouldn't want to pick as a career, driving a big rig.

    Google has targeted truck drivers to put out of work and on to the welfare rolls.

    Google plans to eliminate one profession in twenty or so years. But Google didn't think things through on how many other occupations that rely on the truck driver. Waitresses, cooks, motel owners and room service, etc. etc. etc.





     
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    Thanks for the link. Although it has interesting thoughts, it's akin to saying the inventor of the machine gun "targeted" soldiers to put out of work. Trucks will still need maintenance and supervision. Safer roads mean less fatalities.

    More efficient trade means more jobs in trade. They just won't be more truck driving or truck stop hooker jobs.
     
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    Only the unionized ones. The independent business entrepreneurs lean right.
     
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    I can recall hearing a racist Apartheid supporting South African nationalist saying something very similar in the past.
     
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    That my opinion is accurate is your problem.

    Everyone knows that "white nationalism" is a dog whistle for racism.
     
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    Your extremist alt right grip on power is already slipping and it will be over within the next decade.
     
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    BZZZT Wrong again!

    Neither you nor I nor Sen Kennedy have a crystal ball that enables us to see into the future. What he was saying was correct at the time. This is about CONTEXT. Try looking the term up if you have never encountered it before.
     
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    My condolences to your granddaughter at having to have her understanding of this nation skewed by your cynical bigotry against our fellow less fortunate Americans.
     
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    Agreed, just like "black nationalism", "affirmative action" and "black lives matter".
     
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    I guess if that glimmer of false hope is all that's preventing you from descending into complete madness, I won't deprive you of it. Baby boomers are called baby boomers for a reason, and a decline in church attendance isn't indicitive of a decline in a belief system. The pretext is flawed, and birth rates are fluid. 2020's census is likely to be as big a disappointment as 2016's election. Millennials are only now starting families.
     
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    You did not do your homework!

    According to the updated 2010 worksheet White were 78.4% of the population in 2010.

    The 2016 percentage shows Whites as 76.9% according to your own link.

    That is a DECLINE of 1.5% during a period of 6 years.

    White voters show a similar DECLINE as a percentage of the electorate.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_elections,_2017

     
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    It started right after November 2016. The GOP margins in red districts have been shrinking to single digits for federal offices and the Dems have been winning local seats.
     
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    The shameful white racism of the south has always been the same irrespective of whichever party they might be infesting at any point in time.

    Right now it is the Republicans turn to host them to it's shame.
     
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    Agreed with much of this. I doubt Millennials will have families at the same rate as their parents. Most industrial nations see a decline in the birth rate compared to agricultural nations.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4255510/
    ...The fertility of the population of the United States is below replacement among those native born, and above replacement among immigrant families and the socially deprived (Singh et al., 2001). However the fertility rates of immigrants to the US have been found to decrease sharply in the second generation as a result of improving education and income. It will take several generations for a real change in total fertility rates to be reflected in birth rates because the age distribution must reach equilibrium. For example, a population that has recently dropped below replacement fertility rate continues to grow because the recent high fertility produced large number of young couples who would now be in their child bearing years. The phenomenon carries forward for several generations and is called population momentum or population lag effect. The time lag effect is of great importance to human population growth rates. The state policy institutes and international population studies are closely monitoring how reproductive patterns cause immigrant generations globally.

    Although recent data show that birth rates in the UK have increased (Office of National Statistics, 2009), this is predominantly due to immigration so there are still serious concerns about long term replacement. There are two potential means of addressing the problem of providing a young productive workforce able to generate income to provide the social care for the old and infirm. The first is to find ways of increasing the birth rate; this is essentially a long term solution but one which should provide more steady and predictable results. The second is to encourage immigration of a predominantly young and skilled workforce; this may provide an instant answer to the problem but is likely to be short-term unless the immigrants decide to stay in large numbers. In the long term it is doubtful whether reliance should be placed on immigration to solve an intrinsic societal problem in developed nations, namely a falling birth rate.

    The declining birth rate is not unique to Britain and Western European countries. Countries like Japan have a similar concern.

    There are several factors such as lifestyle factors, an increase in sexually transmitted diseases, rise in obesity and environmental factors involved in urbanisation and urban lifestyle that are affecting fertility and have led to rise in male and female subfertility. In addition there are socio-economic factors that have led to women and couples delaying having children. Lack of affordable housing, flexible and part-time career posts for women and affordable and publicly funded (free) child care have contributed to the current low fertility/birth rates. Couples/women are delaying starting a family which has led to a true decline in their fertility levels due to ovarian ageing and related reasons leading to reduced chance of conception.....
     
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    Kindly refrain from projecting the madness of the extremist alt right onto others.

    TYIA
     
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