How Women Dismantle and Destroy Nations

I brought up race because there is a longer dialogue between Brewskier and I than simply this thread; I know racial issues are the focus of most of his posts here, so I don't feel out of context bringing it up.

A true meritocracy would provide equal opportunity, no? A footrace to see who's the fastest is not a meritocracy if you get to start at the fifty yard line and I have to start in my own end zone. I'm happy that racism, generally speaking, is less and less of an issue for each successive American generation - but if the majority of our public school funding will continue to be raised through local taxes and not more reasonably/evenly distributed amongst the state or nation, then we will continue see good school districts in rich areas and bad ones in poor areas, thus I support affirmative action based on socio-economic grounds instead of race.

And as to the rest of your post, I'm not quite sure what you're arguing?

 

They weren't designs to advocate a solution. They are there too explain a truth that is not easily seen.

A solution is simple it happens naturally society's don't become matriarchies.

 

I'm embarrassed for you and whoever the person is that made that video. The two world wars did change the narrative of Western Civilization because we learned from their mistakes. That 'vlogger'/'youtuber' seems to wistfully remember the days of 1914 when the was West was proud and strong; believing that we took the wrong lessons from the two disastrous wars that followed. That pride or 'esprit de corps' was one of the major catalysts on all sides of the first world war; and the wounded pride following the Great War as one of the major catalysts of the second world war - both the wounded pride of the allies in drafting the treaty that blamed Germany of the entirety of the first world war and the wounded pride of the Germans in seeking their revenge fantasy through nazism; which was equal parts jingoism, racism and militarism.

The West had to learn that all that strength; through scientific discovery, capitalist markets and industrialization had proven inherently dangerous if we were to operate on old modes of thinking; i.e. continuous European war/skirmishes between rival powers. Artillery, the machine gun and the biological weapon (gas) had proven utterly more devastating and costly than what was the already costly nineteenth century, pitched battle style of warfare between two professional armies.

The double-edged sword of human progress demanded that we adopt new modes of thinking and rework the global order; when there are nuclear weapons we cannot blindly follow Washington's farewell address, we can keep it as a guiding principle, but it must be updated, amended and seen through new eyes once we had the ability to destroy ourselves as a species.

The person who made that video doesn't know a ****** thing about history.

 

We didn't need to create a new foundation myth just because we engaged in a war. We had fought other wars before that, and since then, yet we didn't need to make those the core foundation of our society. We didn't need to reject nationalism just because of what the Germans did. This all happened because the left wanted us to reject those concepts so that their way would be embraced as the "ultimate good". Anything associated with the right = Hitler = bad, so do the opposite of this in order to be a good person. That's literally the foundation of every left-wing argument in existence, and this started right after WWII.

It's telling that the people who push this narrative are followers of Marxism, which has claimed far more lives than the Nazis ever did. They never tried to make anti-Marxism the core of our foundation myth. Quite the contrary. It is still seen as the opposite, and therefore, the ultimate good.

 

a great place to start meritocracy is in schools if they were running more like a private business we'd probably see better schools for everyone. But people who go into teaching get this thing called tenure and they belong to this group called the teachers unit that makes it impossible for shity teachers to be fired.

So in the realm of crummy schools you're just giving teachers who fit a desirable political profile and advance in the foot race. If everybody could face the same consequences then it would be meritocracy.

But that's not what we have and that is the cancer that has metastasized in public schools.

 

Oddly enough .. there is a small but growing movement of young folk who are choosing to live according to earlier decades/centuries. And when I say live, I don't mean politically, I mean practically. As in, clothing, food, houses, everything. There's a very clear and burgeoning interest in the more formal and clearly described ways of living of the past.

There has always been a space for these afficionados of the past, but it was very fringe stuff. It's creeping into the mainstream now. Driven by ... educated hipsters.

 

And...the Amish.

 

haha ... indeed!

but seriously, it's a thing now - where once it was a very limited sub-sub-culture.

for a yumorous take on same, see "Supersizers Go". two UK (Giles Coren and Sue Perkins) journos dress, live, and eat their way through different era's for a week at a time. fantastically interesting, and often very funny. plus ... Giles Coren

 

WARNING: This thread contains explicit bigoted and misogynic viewpoints and may be offensive to some viewers.

 

This post is very progressive. So much progress being made.

 

Well that was pretty cowardly not to call out the People by names who you are calling bigots and misogynists. Now they don't have an opportunity to defend themselves from your personal attacks.

 

Your posts in this thread are regressive.

 

You’ve successfully virtue signaled to your fellow progressives. Now what?

 

I disagree with the premise made in that video, and echoed by you, that we changed our foundation myth. We still hold true to this founding myth from our first official document;

Those principles are still the foundation of our society.

And we (and the West generally) haven't rejected nationalism, we simply reject jingoism; i.e. extreme nationalism - the belief that we are better than everyone else and therefore should dictate to everyone else through force or because of ethnic superiority. And we've learned from the barbarism of Nazism and Imperial Japan that the scapegoating of minorities and "the other" can easily lead to wholesale genocide like the Holocaust or the rape of Nanking or Japanese "comfort houses" for soldiers where they forced Korean women into the sex trade to keep their soldiers happy. When you start to think of other peoples as inferior, just how Islamist fundamentalists see us now, you can justify all manner of dehumanizing and anti-enlightenment barbarism.

And no, not everything associated with the American right is fascist, just as not everything associated with the American left is marxist. We passed the New Deal in between those wars and maintained a healthy, capitalist society. We've held on to the principles of the traditional right; a market economy, opposition to tariffs and trade barriers and a strong national defense. We still maintain local governments across the country so we understand that what's best for New York and California is not always best for Texas and Alaska. We've also understood from the left that laissez faire capitalism is not a panacea to all ills and that regulated capitalism matched with a baseline welfare state, as outlined in the New Deal reforms of the 30's, is the best bet for a vibrant economy and a just society; opportunity should be equalized and outcomes should remain unequal as to reward effort and talent.

Our foundation myth is strong and relevant today. But the world is not as it was in 1776 and the founders were smart enough to not make the Constitution a suicide pact; we have the capacity to change it - and we have over the course of our history. But we are still the country outlined in the Declaration of Independence; built on equality under the law, civil liberties and a competitive market economy.

The arc of our country since its founding has been greater enfranchisement; from white male landowners, to all white men, to all men, to the direct election of senators and to women's suffrage. We've been evolving to live up to that founding myth that all of us are created equal; we only betray it when we look at our countrymen as inferior because of race, sex, religion and economic status.

 

Seems to be about time to tweet angrily at the president and then go for a healthy pink hat March.

 

Public education is essential for any functional democracy. We cannot privatize everything. Our school system does need reform; but how about you show me the country that outscores us in math, reading and science AND has a private/business oriented school system and I'll listen.

The answer to every problem isn't "privatize, deregulate"; and that's why I'm left of center in the first place - because the modern day right has no other solutions. The left might come up with some genuinely stupid ideas; but at least they try to innovate and look around the world for ideas and inspiration, just as our founders did. The right wants everything to be run like a business; whether it's a school, a hospital, local government and the federal government. And when someone is selling you on a panacea, a one-trick cure for all problems, that's when as an educated person and informed consumer; you call bullsh*t - because life and the world are never that simple. There are no silver bullets.

 

Perpetrators of these subjugating attacks will NEVER repent, so post was directed toward others.

 

Brilliant.

 

So what policies should be implemented to counteract this "truth"?

 

Virtue by definition is a good thing, despite contradictions to such inherent in the tenets of Trumpian ideology.

 

Agreed

setting up a system where the best people get to teach and the worst and they're not as good are fired is not at all privatizing it. It is simply being result-oriented verses personnel oriented.

I didn't say to privatize and deregulate it. That is a straw man.

Is there are other ways to make school better. Anybody who has a child should get a school voucher and they get to choose which school they go to and the voucher means the tax money goes to that school. See we're still talking about taxes and we're still talking about Public Funding. It's just in this case bad schools will lose funding as they should until they start performing better.

Expecting better performance does not mean privatization.

I would say the left is the origin of this problem. Labor unions and protections for terrible teachers and promotions given to people not based on performance but based on tenure is all the creation of the left.

See we can get rid of all that s*** the only problem is the Democrat Party loses one of their funders.

The only thing that should be business-like when it comes to schools is that they should be rewarded on performance.

The Democratic Party doesn't care about education they just want their dividends from the teachers union. And the left-leaning people just want to throw more money at it as if that's a solution. Or they want a winch about this school not getting the proper attention or funding it should without understanding the underlying problem. I understand it's a problem the left created. It was likely a good solution to a former problem we had. Now the problems with public education are being caused by other things.

I'm sorry I don't View throwing money score more regulations our government and general as a solution to many problems. That's the difference between libertarian and authoritarian right and left don't really matter.

Authoritarians want government to solve all the problems right or left.

 

It isn't. It's just authoritarian garbage.

Why are so many progressives authoritarian I don't understand that it doesn't make any sense. It's regressive.

 

None. Truth simply is. Counteracting it would be stupid.

 

Virtue in this context is subjective. Anyone outside of an sjw would believe that white knighting for poor ideology it's not virtuous.

Therefore it's only a virtue within your Echo chamber.

 

You're right. . . . CURRENTLY, virtue, as well as poor ideology, ARE subjective.