Objectivisim: To The Ramparts

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    Why Do Communist Supporters Ignore the Butchered Lives of 100 Million Plus

    What is that resides in the souls of those who close their eyes to the brutality of communism on human beings. Is that they didn't hear of the screams in the dead of the night in Castro's Cuba, Stalin's Gulags, Mao's
    Cultural Revolution, Pol Pots empting of the cities. It has all been documented. You can see the horror right now in the communist states still in existence, such as Venezuela. What does it take to support that which makes rivers of blood, lives of misery, screams of horror. I say its the moral depravity of the wanting of the unearned no matter who gets hurt. After all, everyone agrees the sacrifice of an individual for the greater good is man's greatest moral attribute.

    Listen to Yaron Brook, and see if you agree: http://www.theblaze.com/podcasts/ya...seem-to-care-how-many-people-communism-kills/

     
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    Communism: Today's Vultures: Individualists: Today's Prometheus.

    To defend communism is a sign of moral depravity. It is the same as defending the right to rape, loot, torture, and murder. It is not a matter of a difference of opinion, any more than the earth revolving around the sun is. Or that Hitler gased and machined gun mothers as they breast feed their babes, or that China practices forced abortions. The truth is never an insult: Is this a board for adults and thinkers, or a place for snowflakes not to melt, or a sanctuary for the deprave to spew their venom. To support communism is to announce to the world you are one depraved soul. That's a truth, not an insult., and if you can't face your own soul, then don't insult the murdered by defending the indefensible to try and cleanse your soul. Defending and supporting communism is not a moral act, it is damn near the most evil act, intellectually, being committed today.

    The real insult would be to not defend the truth of the Pol Pots killing fields. Or do 3-5 million slaughtered not matter anymore? Or as in Venezuela, do eating animals from a zoo to stay alive not offend anyone? Or does the 60+ million butchered by Mao not count as human victims of a butchering monster, just because he wrote a little red book. May any who defend any form of collectivism, but especially communism and socialism, pay a self-inflected metaphysical price of pain for their sin, or they can repent and start the long road to redemption and become once again a moral being. The evidence of communism's evil is as obvious as Ted Bundy's depravity, evil, and the bodies of his victims. So obvious that only a child could be excused for being ignorant of it I have yet found one child on this board. Ignorance is not a sin, willingly evading the obvious is.

    Ayn Rand: "
    One must never fail to pronounce moral judgment.

    Nothing can corrupt and disintegrate a culture or a man’s character as thoroughly as does the precept of moral agnosticism, the idea that one must never pass moral judgment on others, that one must be morally tolerant of anything, that the good consists of never distinguishing good from evil.

    It is obvious who profits and who loses by such a precept. It is not justice or equal treatment that you grant to men when you abstain equally from praising men’s virtues and from condemning men’s vices. When your impartial attitude declares, in effect, that neither the good nor the evil may expect anything from you—whom do you betray and whom do you encourage?"--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/moral_judgment.html

    Ayn Rand:
    “Thousands of years ago, the first man discovered how to make fire. He was probably burned at the stake he had taught his brothers to light. He was considered an evildoer who had dealt with a demon mankind dreaded. But thereafter men had fire to keep them warm, to cook their food, to light their caves. He had left them a gift they had not conceived and he had lifted darkness off the earth. Centuries later, the first man invented the wheel. He was probably torn on the rack he had taught his brothers to build. He was considered a transgressor who ventured into forbidden territory. But thereafter, men could travel past any horizon. He had left them a gift they had not conceived and he had opened the roads of the world.

    “That man, the unsubmissive and first, stands in the opening chapter of every legend mankind has recorded about its beginning. Prometheus was chained to a rock and torn by vultures—because he had stolen the fire of the gods. Adam was condemned to suffer—because he had eaten the fruit of the tree of knowledge. Whatever the legend, somewhere in the shadows of its memory mankind knew that its glory began with one and that that one paid for his courage."--http://www.workthesystem.com/getting-it/howard-roarks-courtroom-speech/

    And today, that vulture is Communism, and the Capitalists, the individual, and America, are today's Prometheus.

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    Admirers honor 'Che' Guevara 50 years after his death

    The depraved once again rise and bow before the alter of a mass butcherer, begging to kiss his torturing ass. You better hope there is a God to forgive you. I won't.

    "The Truth About Che Guevara"

    "He helped free Cubans from the repressive Batista regime, only to enslave them in a totalitarian police state worst than the last. He was Fidel Castro’s chief executioner, a mass-murderer who in theory could have commanded any number of Latin American death squads, from Peru’s Shining Path on the political left to Guatemala’s White Hand on the right."--http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/blog/michael-j-totten/truth-about-che-guevara

    Chavez and Maduro's murdering hero, the man who vomited on the soul of man, Che Guevara. Damn, are you b*****ds who admire this psychopath some very sick puppies--and he's Bernie Sanders and his teeny bopper post mod squad's hero. Its all almost too much to bear. Who will be ANTIFA's Che Guevara? Who will become the butcher that will make Americans afraid to say, "I admire George Washington and Thomas Jefferson"? And how soon will it happen?
     
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    The Heroism of Columbus:

    He fought off mutinies, hurricanes, disease, doubt, in a quest to find a path from western Europe to the east, a trade route. The purpose was not to search for ignorant savages to murder, loot, and rape. And I have not found any evidence that he did. He did fail at finding a trade route to China, and instead hit the what is today know as the West Indies. This began a great migration of the Europeans, who took different routes to America.

    That is his legacy, he showed you could travel across the Atlantic at a time that many still believed impossible. He did this at a time when the dark ages were just ending and the Renaissance was just starting; at a time when superstition was still very strong and reason, the intellectual source of the Enlightenment, was just starting its rebirth. He did this by defying the superstitions of his fellow men and relying on his reasoning intellect.

    When he landing on the new lands, he did not run out and start hacking the heads of the indigenous population. He started to trade with them and showed them great respect and kindness. What he didn't realize was that the people who lived there did not recognize nor have any understanding of the concept of property rights and lived under the principles of tribalism with its morality of altruism, the sacrifice of the one for the good of the many. The indigenous population started to rob the Europeans of that which the Europeans had traded for. Columbus and his men retaliated. They won, as men of reason always will against primitive savages.

    In essence, his adventure proved sailing across the Atlantic was possible, that primitives at times were not very good hosts, and succeeded in introducing western civilization to a barbaric and savage land.

    For this, he is a hero to me. I love western civilization and its principles of reason and science, principles which have given us skyscrapers, jets, air conditioners, TVs, computers, and spaceships. I deplore the primitive life of horse dung, human sacrifices, straw huts, buffalo robes, and teepees. Man's future is the science and adventures of tomorrow, complete with cures for the incurable, and travel to the stars, provided by the foundations of western civilization. It is not wallowing in pity for a bunch primitive barbaric monsters with western man kneeling on his knees begging for forgiveness from the post-modern trash of today's youth with their anti-reason, anti-life, punk anti -western beliefs of today. There will be some children of western man who will kill the spark of reason in their souls and walk the earth as zombies feeding off the living flesh of the creative, but they are only returning to ancient relic of beliefs of the primitive savage, and pose to real threat. They will not lead man into the future they spit at by denouncing heroes such as Christopher Columbus; they will die of suicide, alcoholism, drug addiction, and in some cases, their own hands be it hanging or blowing their non-existent brains out.

    Thank you, Christopher Columbus, I bow before your heroism of the great adventure of your life. You will always have a home in Atlantis, the land of heroes, with Magellan, Cook, Erik Thorvaldsson, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Sowell, George Washington Carver, Frederick Douglas, Crispus Atticus, Aristotle, Galileo, Newton, Copernicus, Steve Jobs, and many others, as well as Ayn Rand.

    Ayn Rand:
    "It is obvious why the morality of altruism is a tribal phenomenon. Prehistorical men were physically unable to survive without clinging to a tribe for leadership and protection against other tribes. The cause of altruism’s perpetuation into civilized eras is not physical, but psycho-epistemological: the men of self-arrested, perceptual mentality are unable to survive without tribal leadership and “protection” against reality. The doctrine of self-sacrifice does not offend them: they have no sense of self or of personal value—they do not know what it is that they are asked to sacrifice—they have no firsthand inkling of such things as intellectual integrity, love of truth, personally chosen values, or a passionate dedication to an idea. When they hear injunctions against “selfishness,” they believe that what they must renounce is the brute, mindless whim-worship of a tribal lone wolf. But their leaders—the theoreticians of altruism—know better. Immanuel Kant knew it; John Dewey knew it; B. F. Skinner knows it; John Rawls knows it. Observe that it is not the mindless brute, but reason, intelligence, ability, merit, self-confidence, self-esteem that they are out to destroy.

    "Today, we are seeing a ghastly spectacle: a magnificent scientific civilization dominated by the morality of prehistorical savagery."--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/tribalism.html

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    This is the promise of those who attack Christopher Columbus: A return to the hell of the primitive savage.
     
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    The Truth about Rights, Black and White

    The Civil War, white causalities, Estimate: 300,000, 10 times black causalities, 30,0000;

    Ali:
    All my Indian, Mexican, and White Friends, most of my relatives, estimate, hundreds.

    The Civil Rights movement: I have a dream speech: 65,000-90,000. The storyline:
    "In March on Washington, white activists were largely overlooked but strategically essential--https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...7f07811d98e_story.html?utm_term=.66927c9091c1

    However, for the record, I do not support black rights, it is blatant racism. Nor do I support women's rights, nor the right to vote, nor worker's rights, no human rights, nor white rights, nor students' rights. I support only one principle of rights, Individual Rights. Rights that each and every individual has no matter what race, color, religion, creed, sex, sexual habits, books read, movies seen, music heard, played, produced, bought, products bought, and on, and on, and on.

    The rights I speak of are expressed in the Declaration of Independence, and despite the intellectual errors and moral errors in certain parts of the constitution that the Declaration of Independence gave birth to, and the errors of morality that the writers and thinkers, and founders who created America made--according to today's pseudo-intellectuals--that Delcaration of Independence is still the greatest political document every written. Those rights that each and every one has are "...life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness..." and by implication, includes property rights--a man who no right to what is his, has no rights at all.

    So take those pseudo, phony, fraudulent and racists and sexists rights, shove them down the trash can of history, and start defending and demanding the only rights that count and are moral--the Individual Rights as enumerated in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.

    Ayn Rand: "A “right” is a moral principle defining and sanctioning a man’s freedom of action in a social context. There is only one fundamental right (all the others are its consequences or corollaries): a man’s right to his own life. Life is a process of self-sustaining and self-generated action; the right to life means the right to engage in self-sustaining and self-generated action—which means: the freedom to take all the actions required by the nature of a rational being for the support, the furtherance, the fulfillment and the enjoyment of his own life. (Such is the meaning of the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.)--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/individual_rights.html

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    The Proper Use of Force and Its Moral Foundation


    If I am a police officer, it is my call, according to the principles of law, how much force is necessary to stop a suspect. And if I were a police officer, I certainly would shot anyone trying to escape from me, and use all force necessary to stop the that person from resisting arrest. As a citizen, under the law, you are not allowed to resist arrest even if you are innocent. That is for the court and your peers to decide. Yes, errors will be made, but no where near what hell would be brought if there wasn't a police force without arrest powers. As a clue, take a look at riots when the police refuse to do their jobs, not out of fear of physical retaliation, but out of fear of 20/20 hindsight and second guessing retaliation.

    Ayn Rand:

    "The retaliatory use of force requires objective rules of evidence to establish that a crime has been committed and to prove who committed it, as well as objective rules to define punishments and enforcement procedures. Men who attempt to prosecute crimes, without such rules, are a lynch mob. If a society left the retaliatory use of force in the hands of individual citizens, it would degenerate into mob rule, lynch law and an endless series of bloody private feuds or vendettas.

    If physical force is to be barred from social relationships, men need an institution charged with the task of protecting their rights under an objective code of rules.

    This is the task of a government—of a proper government—its basic task, its only moral justification and the reason why men do need a government.

    A government is the means of placing the retaliatory use of physical force under objective control—i.e., under objectively defined laws."--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/law,_objective_and_non-objective.html

    "If one upholds freedom, one must uphold man’s individual rights; if one upholds man’s individual rights, one must uphold his right to his own life, to his own liberty, to the pursuit of his own happiness—which means: one must uphold a political system that guarantees and protects"--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/freedom.html

    "There can be no such thing as a political crime under the American system of law. Since an individual has the right to hold and to propagate any ideas he chooses (obviously including political ideas), the government may not infringe his right; it may neither penalize nor reward him for his ideas; it may not take any judicial cognizance whatever of his ideology.

    By the same principle, the government may not give special leniency to the perpetrator of a crime, on the grounds of the nature of his ideas."--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/crime.html


    In essence, your ideas can not be subject to arrest, your actions can be. It is the laws business to prove your actions were criminal; it is your responsibility to defend those actions. After argue, either a judge or jury of your peers decides who is right and who is wrong. Anarchy in the streets, and racists, fascists groups suck as Antifa and the Alt-Right will not make anything better. They will only create an American Stalin or Hitler. Time to quit wasting time in pointless kneeling and arm locking, and to start to fighting for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, i.e., the justice of Individual Rights, and the Lady that defends them.



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    The Truth about Rights, Black and White

    The Civil War, white causalities, Estimate: 300,000, 10 times black causalities, 30,0000;

    Ali:
    All my Indian, Mexican, and White Friends, most of my relatives, estimate, hundreds.

    The Civil Rights movement: I have a dream speech: 65,000-90,000. The storyline:
    "In March on Washington, white activists were largely overlooked but strategically essential--https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...7f07811d98e_story.html?utm_term=.66927c9091c1

    However, for the record, I do not support black rights, it is blatant racism. Nor do I support women's rights, nor the right to vote, nor worker's rights, no human rights, nor white rights, nor students' rights. I support only one principle of rights, Individual Rights. Rights that each and every individual has no matter what race, color, religion, creed, sex, sexual habits, books read, movies seen, music heard, played, produced, bought, products bought, and on, and on, and on.

    The rights I speak of are expressed in the Declaration of Independence, and despite the intellectual errors and moral errors in certain parts of the constitution that the Declaration of Independence gave birth to, and the errors of morality that the writers and thinkers, and founders who created America made--according to today's pseudo-intellectuals--that Delcaration of Independence is still the greatest political document every written. Those rights that each and every one has are "...life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness..." and by implication, includes property rights--a man who no right to what is his, has no rights at all.

    So take those pseudo, phony, fraudulent and racists and sexists rights, shove them down the trash can of history, and start defending and demanding the only rights that count and are moral--the Individual Rights as enumerated in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.

    Ayn Rand: "A “right” is a moral principle defining and sanctioning a man’s freedom of action in a social context. There is only one fundamental right (all the others are its consequences or corollaries): a man’s right to his own life. Life is a process of self-sustaining and self-generated action; the right to life means the right to engage in self-sustaining and self-generated action—which means: the freedom to take all the actions required by the nature of a rational being for the support, the furtherance, the fulfillment and the enjoyment of his own life. (Such is the meaning of the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.)--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/individual_rights.html

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    The World: Sins and Glories,

    The slaughter of millions, and the silence of billions, Why? Why isn't the hell of communism/socialism condemned, spat upon, despised, and revolted against, Why does American apologize for its prosperity, while the leftist dictators brag about their murder of million through collectivization, re-education camps, gulags, forced abortions, and wars of conquest? Where are American Idealists? Why is Idealism viewed as an psychosis to be treated and not as a virtue emulated. Why do the masses despise a woman who presents man as a being of creativity, as a person of integrity, as an artist with an romantic vision of life as an adventure to be lived instead of a psychopath's nightmare of blood curdling screams, and dead, butchered, tortured, and mutilated bodes of the beautiful and the proud filled with blood to bath in? Why the rejection of the real in favor of the lie, the love of the dead instead of the worship of the living, the maniacal laugher of a lunatic, instead of the joyous wonder of happy child. Why? the answer is the rejection of reason and the sanctification of faith.

    After the fall of the Alamo, when the fate of Texas independence hung in the balance, a cry when out over the land to stoke the fire of liberty that burns in each Man' soul and the revolution was saved and Texas gained her independence. That cry was "Remember the Alamo:. Let us again stoke the fires of liberty, of goodness, of righteousness, and of the sacredness that fired our own American Revolution, and honor all who have fought, died, and lived for liberty. Let us again have a rallying cry. Only today let the rallying cry be "Remember the Enlightenment"

    Leonard Peikoff: " The development from Aquinas through Locke and Newton represents more than four hundred years of stumbling, tortuous, prodigious effort to secularize the Western mind, i.e., to liberate man from the medieval shackles. It was the buildup toward a climax: the eighteenth century, the Age of Enlightenment. For the first time in modern history, an authentic respect for reason became the mark of an entire culture; the trend that had been implicit in the centuries-long crusade of a handful of innovators now swept the West explicitly, reaching and inspiring educated men in every field. Reason, for so long the wave of the future, had become the animating force of the present."

    Ayn Rand: "
    ... The three values which men held for centuries and which have now collapsed are: mysticism, collectivism, altruism. Mysticism -- as a cultural power -- died at the time of the Renaissance. Collectivism -- as a political ideal -- died in World War II. As to altruism -- it has never been alive. It is the poison of death in the blood of Western civilization, and men survived it only to the extent to which they neither believed nor practiced it. But it has caught up with them -- and that is the killer which they now have to face and to defeat. That is the basic choice they have to make. If any civilization is to survive, it is the morality of altruism that men have to reject.

    ... Yes, this is an age of moral crisis. ... Your moral code has reached its climax, the blind alley at the end of its course. And if you wish to go on living, what you now need is not to return to morality, but to discover it.

    What is morality? It is a code of values to guide man's choices and actions -- the choices which determine the purpose and the course of his life. It is a code by means of which he judges what is right or wrong, good or evil.

    What is the morality of altruism? The basic principle of altruism is that man has no right to live for his own sake, that service to others is the only justification of his existence, and that self-sacrifice is his highest moral duty, virtue and value. "--http://freedomkeys.com/faithandforce.htm

    Yaron Brook: Radical Capitalist w/ Yaron Brook: Religion, Liberty and Happiness
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    Starjett: Your life, your choice: liberty or the living death of a zombie; reason or the altruistic blindness of lemmings falling off the cliff of life.

     
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    Man's True Benefactor
    Profit

    It is preached by the preachers, it is taught by the teachers, it is professed by the professors, and it is sneered at by the snide economists, profit is the stolen by the rich from the blood, sweat, and tears of the common man. That it is the rich and their selfish desire for profit no matter who they have to step on and how many poor they have to exploit.. Let's consider that for a moment with just one simple question: How does one get rich by robbing the poor? Is that like quenching your thirst in the desert by eating the sand?

    Profit, it is not our enemy; it is our greatest benefactor.
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    What has happened to us? Growing up, we were never taught that our lives were someone else's responsibility. Now I see damn near everybody's hand held out while they demand angrily, "Give me! Give me! Give me!" All except this "give me": "Give me liberty of Give me death!"--Patrick Henry. In my childhood, we loved being free. Why does the new generation only want to be free to use the government's gun to loot from their betters. What has happened to us?

    Ayn Rand: "Since knowledge, thinking, and rational action are properties of the individual, since the choice to exercise his rational faculty or not depends on the individual, man’s survival requires that those who think be free of the interference of those who don’t. Since men are neither omniscient nor infallible, they must be free to agree or disagree, to cooperate or to pursue their own independent course, each according to his own rational judgment. Freedom is the fundamental requirement of man’s mind."--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/freedom.html

    Yaron Brook - Capitalism Without Guilt: The Moral Case for Freedom

     
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    How to defeat communism/socialism: Let it be. It will rot from its own evil. How to escape some one preaching communism to you: Run, run, as fast as you can. How to deal with a communist when the putrid thing knocks at your door in the middle of the night? Just like a zombie--put a bullet in its head.

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    Do you still believe:

    Your life belongs to you
    Just desserts are what you earn
    One man's tears is not a claim on another man's life
    That slavery is one of man's ugliest sins
    That skin color is an accident of nature, not an indication of a man's moral stature
    Cannibalism is evil whether practice by primitive savages, or the modern welfare state
    That the independent soul is the most sacred thing in existence
    That Man's proper place in life is standing tall on the highest skyscraper
    That love is earned by one's values, not one's sins

    If so, why are you not supporting and fighting for Ayn Rand and her philosophy of Objectivism.
    In the name of the best within man, fight for the best within you, the happiness of your own soul.

    Fight for the ideals of Ayn Rand
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    A great American Hero, who would have bowed at the waist and asked Miss Rand for a dance.

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    Remember the Alamo

    One man, one idea, liberty.

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    Actually no. Hollywood tends to be cute about that stuff but in reality in any emergency situation one's background kicks in and takes over whether that -- in this instance perhaps -- came from family elders talking about what they did or saw back in their war time experience days or what was drilled into your head during bootcamp or in various post bootcamp training schools.

    The more intense specific training in regards to that specific possibility the more automatic the response is likely to be. So far as I know, nobody is TAUGHT to wrap their body around a live grenade, but other aspects of training can kick in and at the speed of thought make that reaction the only viable one. The thing about emergency situations is that there is generally no time to be philosophical. It's mostly a see and respond situation. Of course once you have wrapped your body around a live hand grenade then you have until it goes off to rethink your action. Now that is undoubtedly a true . . . bummer.
     
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    Lots of geniuses died in poverty from Mozart to most famous painters. So perhaps that's not a good yardstick for the measurement of worth.
     
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    I have never seen any evidence that Ayn Rand died broke. But as you mention, many great souls have passed on with no glory, no recognition, and extreme poverty, it did not make them any less courageous or right. As a matter of fact, Mein Kemp was a best seller and made Hitler a millionaire Truth is not a popularity contest, it is or it isn't, and not open to vote.

    Ayn Rand once said, and I paraphrase, that it was irrelevant if she were a genius, a millionaire, or a literary success. What matter to her was would her ideals hold up to the scrutiny of the seeing eye of reason, i.e., the truth.
     
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    Correct. I have no problem with Ayn Rand's philosophy so far as I have ever comprehended it; but I will confess that most of it goes over my head. It was all I could do to wade through one college semester of Western philosophy as it was, and after dealing with the thoughts of the ancients I decided not to also wade through the nineteenth and twentieth century philosophical systems as well.
     
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    You are correct it is not a measurement of worth.

    However in this case it is also not true.

    She was well off and comfortable when she died. One does not need to be an expert or do lot's of research to determine this fact. Most of her assets were in cash which amounted to over $800,000.00. She also had a few other investments and all told was worth a little over a million.

    For a single woman in the late seventies / early eighties she was doing ok for herself.

    Clearly the person you were responding to is as uninformed as most who attack Rand like rabid weasels
     
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    Yes, I'm not surprised. I mean she was widely published in her day, and so why would she die penniless? That's the problem with leftists getting ALL their talking points from MSNBC or Slate or Salon.
     
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    Viva Liberte!


    The best thing ever uttered by a French Man. I love it. Though I detest and despise war because we are rational men--we need ideas, not guns, unless in self defense. I do realize guns a necessary good to defend the good from evil. But before everyone starts reaching for that gun to start another civil war, please allow me to paraphrase another favorite author of mine, Dr. Leonard Peikoff: "To save the world is the simplest thing to do--all one has to do is think!"--Leonard Peikoff, Ayn Rand's intellectual heir, author of numerous books including "The Ominous Parallels:, and "Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand".

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    Again, my fellow American, every kind of fantastic weapon for defense, but more importantly, ideas for "...life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." In other words, ideas move the world, not guns. Guns are for defending those ideas, not for forcing others to accept them. Ideas are for flying to Mars, not for monsters to use to justify machine gunning naked mothers in a ditch while breast feeding their babies. Ideas are for building a future fit for the human soul, not for building a hell on earth that isn't even fit for rabid rats.

    Thank you, Ayn Rand, for one hell of an adventure.

    Viva Liberte!
     
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    Anything to attack the good. It is quite obvious that those that spread lies are terrified of the truth and are sweating bullets that the rest of us are as stupid as rocks.


    Ayn Rand: "Honesty is the recognition of the fact that the unreal is unreal and can have no value, that neither love nor fame nor cash is a value if obtained by fraud—that an attempt to gain a value by deceiving the mind of others is an act of raising your victims to a position higher than reality, where you become a pawn of their blindness, a slave of their non-thinking and their evasions, while their intelligence, their rationality, their perceptiveness become the enemies you have to dread and flee—that you do not care to live as a dependent, least of all a dependent on the stupidity of others, or as a fool whose source of values is the fools he succeeds in fooling—that honesty is not a social duty, not a sacrifice for the sake of others, but the most profoundly selfish virtue man can practice: his refusal to sacrifice the reality of his own existence to the deluded consciousness of others."--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/honesty.html

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    The True Nature of a National Health Care System: A Gun Pointed At Your Head


    Your child is dying and needs drugs and treatment beyond your means. In truth, she is going to die because you don't have the money to take care of her. Its not your fault. It is just the way of things. But you love your daughter and you are not going to let her die. So you arm yourself, go to her hospital, take hostages, and demand she be saved or you will start killing hostages, one every hour. Such is life. You succeed. No one dies, your daughter is saved, a jury of your peers takes pity on your soul and finds you not guilty by reason of temporary insanity caused by your grief. And it has now been established, tears justify kidnapping and assault. The need is the standard of morality.

    Of course, the surgeons who spent countless hours of sleepless nights studying to be the best they could be didn't get paid. The hospital that supplied the necessary supplies, equipment, follow up care, operating room, medications, they didn't get paid. The nurses, janitors, security, and other ancillary support, they didn't get paid. No one got paid because the father forced the doctors and the hospital to perform the operation free of charge. Estimated total loss, 5 million dollars. That's 5 million that might have been used to one day find a cure for this girl's disease. Of course not for this little girl, but what about that little girl in the future who could have been saved because a cure had been invented and profit had been made. That profit might have prevented her father's grief because that profit might have brought in another 5 million dollars that might have been used to improve surgical techniques and lower hospital costs.

    That is the true nature of National Health Care, the destruction of morality, the annihilation of the future, the enslavement of a whole industry, a living death provided for by the point of a gun.

    This is what is being argued for now with claims that healthcare is a right. Really? Provided by whom? And at what cost? Rights are not given, nor provided. Rights are rights because of the nature of what man is, a being of free will. To argue because man gets sick he has a right to healthcare, is the same as arguing that because a man gets bored, he has a right to television set. It's ludicrous.

    As an example of what free health care looks like and work, study the UK. It has free health care, and food police, and waiting lines, and direct flights to the last remaining place on earth with some semblance of free market health care, America. America, which provides 75% of medical innovations. America, where the European rich, including the Swedish, go to get healthcare when they need it.

    Nothing in the universe can ultimately stop death, not even a father filled with grief and carrying a gun. That's the nature of existence. What will happen if America does not return to the free market in healthcare is a hell on earth that will make the dark ages look like the age of Enlightenment.

    Every action of immorality has a consequence. It can not be avoided. Morality can not be cheated. To do so is to guarantee more killing fields, more Nazi concentration camps, more Soviet Gulags, more Nazi-like medical experiments, mandatory death laws. Refusal of care. And on, and on, and on, until the people of the earth perish in filth and waste.

    National Healthcare is not a solution, it is a death sentence. Yes, in my story the little girl was saved, but what became of those that followed? For the answer study Canada's and UK's national healthcare. National healthcare is a gun pointed at someone's head. How soon before its you and yours?

    Ayn Rand: (This is the true meaning of National Healthcare)--"The only proper purpose of a government is to protect man's rights, which means: to protect him from physical violence. A proper government is only a policeman, acting as an agent of man's self-defense, and, as such, may resort to force only against those who start the use of force. The only proper functions of a government are: the police, to protect you from criminals; the army, to protect you from foreign invaders; and the courts, to protect your property and contracts from breaches or fraud by the others, to settle disputes by rational rules, according to objective law. But a government that initiates the employment of force against men who had forced no one, the employment of armed compulsion against disarmed victims, is a nightmare infernal machine designed to annihilate morality: such a government reverses its only moral purpose and switches from the role of protector to the role of man's deadliest enemy, from the role of of policeman to the role of a criminal vested with the right to the wielding of violence against the victims deprived of the right of self-defense. Such a government substitutes for morality the following rule of social conduct: you may do whatever you please to your neighbor, provided your gang is bigger than his.”--https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/253270-the-only-proper-purpose-of-a-government-is-to-protect

    Yes, the ultimate outcome of national healthcare will be gang warfare and massive deaths and misery.

    Death can not be defeated, but our best chance at victory over death will always be the Free Market, not National Health Care.

    May I suggest this commentary by Yaron Brook on National Health Care.
    Yaron Brook: The NHS is Killing You

     
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    The Root Cause of Happiness and Prosperity:

    Ayn Rand: "There are, fundamentally, only two causes of the progress of the nineteenth century — the same two causes which you will find at the root of any happy, benevolent, progressive era in human history. One cause is psychological, the other existential — or: one pertains to man’s consciousness, the other to the physical conditions of his existence. The first is reason, the second is freedom.” —Ayn Rand (1905-1982)

    Though I know its beyond credulous belief, but lets assume the individual of today seeks a future of happiness and prosperity for himself and those he loves, what is required of him? Two things, the first is his reason. He must think what is best for himself and how to achieve it. The second, that he be free. That, my fellow citizens is whole point of America and the free market. But what do I see in the streets, in the colleges, on TV, and hear from the intellectuals: Reason is an illusion as there is no free will, liberty is a delusion because no one is truly free. And we wonder why the new generation are snowflakes full of angst, and the older generation can only shrug and whimper, "I don't know"--all because those two fundamental principle have been betrayed and are still being betrayed.

    Man's next big leap forward is when the Objectivist begin to colonize space, and returns human existence to a sane world of reason, science, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

    Welcome Aboard, for those who wish to go first.

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    Life Is Pain:

    This explains the hatred of Ayn Rand and Objectivism. I actually never would have believed a philosopher would have written something as evil as this:
    https://aeon.co/essays/having-children-is-not-life-affirming-its-immoral

    Ayn Rand: "My philosophy, in essence, is the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute.”--https://atlassociety.org/atlas-shrugged/atlas-shrugged-blog/3169-the-revolutionary-philosophy-of-atlas-shrugged

    To deny Objectivism is to accept the premise behind "Kids: Just Say No."

    This is what Objectivism celebrates and admires, and what the article Kids: Just Say No by David Benatar wants to murder.
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    No, Life is Not Pain

    Life is joy gained through knowledge, so start thinking--its the easiest way to live a happy life.

    Ayn Rand: "Happiness is the successful state of life, pain is an agent of death. Happiness is that state of consciousness which proceeds from the achievement of one’s values. A morality that dares to tell you to find happiness in the renunciation of your happiness—to value the failure of your values—is an insolent negation of morality. A doctrine that gives you, as an ideal, the role of a sacrificial animal seeking slaughter on the altars of others, is giving you death as your standard. By the grace of reality and the nature of life, man—every man—is an end in himself, he exists for his own sake, and the achievement of his own happiness is his highest moral purpose"--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/happiness.html

    Yaron Brook: Happiness In An Unfree World




    Ah, the joy of life

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