Hot News from the Antarctic Underground https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6996 West Antarctica is on the Pacific ring of Fire.
So the alarmists lost some important evidence? SO, if these people are so concerned, why is it they are not pushing for land management to add to the co2 sucking flora numbers, world wide? If they ever do this, I will then see them as really concerned instead of being just a political animal doing what these animals do. But for as long as they press for carbon taxes, which will do nothing but enrich some people at the top, how can you really take them serious? The fact is, green energy cannot today supply the world's needs especially the developing world. Fossil fuel is essential. Civilization is where it is today due to fossil fuels, and without them, civilization as we know it and even being able to feed the people would not be possible. You gotta inject some realism here and see that rainbow and unicorn thinking is a luxury, but also mostly moot. The only thing that will ever get us off of fossil fuels is a break through in energy tech and the science. Like finding a way to get at zero point energy.
The unfortunate truth here is that the alarmism is probably very viscerally felt by those who have allowed themselves to believe deeply in it. It seems to be a fervor. A vocation even for many. Folks who wish to try to do the right thing. And why shouldn't they? Obviously, we don't, or wouldn't want our activities to otherwise befoul or deteriorate our environments, our climates. And things that would, rightfully scare folks. Enough to move them towards taking actions they otherwise wouldn't. Which is precisely why so many are so willing to simply suspend their otherwise common sense approach to solutions, and invest themselves, if not in solutions, the mantra and the dogma of climate change rhetoric. The little problem here is that they are being manipulated. This is one of those so attractive issues for so many because truly, we are all concerned about our living conditions and standards. And it's obvious that those who propagate this understand this dynamic, and are actively preying on it. The facts are, the movement isn't really interested in any other kind of solution than to create an annuity for those most wealthy among us to siphon off of in perpetuity. It's an active effort to invest in PR to get folks whipped into such a frenzy and so fearful that they will actively sign away their own personal rights, ignore their best economic interests, and get forced into a scheme that transfers their own wealth to the so very few who will profit mightily because of their control of the carbon trades. Leo DiCaprio doesn't fly commercial, he jets around from event to event. Do you really believe that his lifestyle will be impacted by any potential legislation that limits the rest of us? The abject hypocrisy inherent in the progenitors of this is staggering.
Excuse me but this story has absolutely nothing to do with Anthropogenic Global Warming. This is addressing the frictional heat dissipation created by the moon's orbit of the Earth (the reason for the Earth's molten core). The frictional heat is basically a constant that is accounted for in the AGW model. Where and how that heat is dissipated from the molten core of the planet and into the atmosphere doesn't have anything to do with AGW theory but, as noted, it's accounted for. Anthropogenic Global Warming addresses the difference between the radiation heat from the sun (that averages about 420 btu's per square foot at 93 million miles as I recall) and how much of that heat is dissipated back into space. If more heat dissipated than are received you have global cooling. If less heat is dissipated back into space than is received then you have global warming. Today the planet is dissipating less solar heat than it receives and that results in global warming. Because of the increase is due to increased greenhouse gases that retain heat and because man is responsible for the increasing greenhouse gases it's "Anthropogenic (caused by humans) Global Warming.
Well, to be fair, the alarmist hypothesis' usually come in the form "every weather event is the result of AGW" or in this particular case "every ice sheet calving event is the result of AGW". So while it doesn't falsify AGW proper (because AGW doesn't make these claims) it does help falsify hypothesis from a faction of AGW proponents generally referred to as alarmists. There's a lot of alarmist hypothesis that I believe can be convincingly falsified.
what the **** does this have to do with climate change, which the Trump Administration says is mostly caused by human activity? boy does this thread of scream of desperation.
This "Alarmism" gambit is a new one...at least the word. I suppose it's a new way to attempt debasement of people who express concern about the changing temperatures of our planet. Next year they will create a new word and still say the same useless diatribe in the face of an obvious reality. Like it or not guys, the planet is warming and we will not stop it from happening. Deny it or accept it...it no longer even matters.
Oh, stop trying to bring logic into a discussion with AGW deniers. I forgot to turn my stove off which clearly explains the hottest summer on record.
Actually it is usually the deniers that say silly things like we had a big snow so global warming is disproved. And as far as I can tell at least on this forum anyone concerned with the effects of global warming is an alarmist to the deniers who think every bit of evidence should be ignored until AGW can be proven beyond any doubt.
I have never heard of anyone saying "AGW alarmist" without referring to anyone and everyone who accepts what science has to say about AGW.
Every other industrialized nation taxes carbon, using the proceeds to reduce/offset income tax, etc. The result encourages the cheapest source of power we have - conservation. Your "annuity" idea is poorly formed. You are trying hard to find something to object to.
lol - As Reagan would say, "There you go again!" It's YOU who are the "alarmist", claiming that we're all being duped - while failing to give ANY indication of how such a massive world wide conspiracy could possibly be carried out. If you think there is such a conspiracy, you better come up with some evidence of how that conspiracy is being organized.
