I don't get science from the Bible. The rest of your post wasn't necessary to answer. Can we keep this scientific and leave the Bible out of this? This is about evolution
I totally respect science. Yes I can. Evolution is nothing but extrapolation and to believe that there is no conspiracy by those who can't fathom an alternative, whatever that may be, is not very scientific. I don't need one. But I did mention it could come from outer space since there's nothing here to honestly show that evolution happened.
Creationism shouldn't be taught in public schools. Also evolution shouldn't be taught because it lacks scientific evidence.
Dumb scientist think mutation is evolution, The lie has worked so why change it ,huh? Common sense tells us that you have to have something created to work off of. There are lots of planets,stars etc, out in space and not a damn single one of them in last billion years has evolved into a animal yet, much less a person. Still just space rock's filled with matter and gas. Our puny little minds can't comphehend anythign outside our own logic.
You think about it. Have you ever seen one of the planets or anything else EVOLVE aka evolution into and living being of any kind? If evolutionist were right this would happen already. Life is created not formed from slime. Nothing on earth has evolved either only mutated from life already here. Plus there is a spirit world and for some of us this too is a fact of life.
Okay...I think I sort of get it now. You confuse Evolution with Abiogenesis and inorganic matter with Organics. Allow me to attempt clarification even though I am aware it will likely be futile given your creation beliefs. Evolution deals with what has happened AFTER life (self replicating organics) came about initially and has absolutely nothing to do with what started life. Inorganic (Rocks in this case) materials do not have the required chemical composition to become organic.
No your saying life came from nowhere then or do you agree it came from somewhere in the cosmos? And do you account for the spirit part that is totally separate from the matter or organics? You cannot answer because if you have not experienced the spirit part of life you will not believe in it any more than I believe in evolution. So all either one of us has for proof is our opinion and a little science.
Likely (I do not "Know") life came from somewhere. Obviously not from Nowhere, that is silly. I cannot account for the "Spirit Part" primarily because I have no idea what that is and no one can produce anything for me to gain an understanding from. You can tell me to read up on it and I will ask you which book.
It is something that nobody will ever believe until it happens to them,I know I wouldn't till it happened to me. No book will convince you .I hope it happens to you it is absolute proof without question it is real. I've had several such experiences. It would be nice if alot more people had them. I took a lot of science in Horticulture studying plants and most of it I forgot since I didn't use it. But the negative and positive ion's are basically in everything and energy is what makes us tic so to speak, close your eyes and see the light show going on inside your brain.
I could just as easily tell you I was abducted by aliens who showed me Nirvana and explained that life is just a hologram made by their teenager as a science project....it would carry the same weight and contain as much verifiable data.
Not me I am bored I guess and don't have much entertainment at my age so I dive into politics but I do my best not to make it personal.
I also get bored and come here to ply my intellect and knowledge while toying with those less endowed for entertainment.
Oh, please. You've shown total disdain for science. You have even stated that scientific method is garbage - not so directly, but by disrespecting the fundamental processes of that methodology. Again, please suggest an alternative as well as a methodology whereby scientists the world over are being controlled. You are claiming a world wide conspiracy. You need to show evidence of that. Outer space? One might claim that as a possible method for first life - an answer to questions of abiogenesis. But, to displace evolution in any meaningful way would require constant arrival of new species in full form - life forms of ALL TYPES from the sky, surviving entry and landing on earth, and doing so undetected and repeatedly through modern time. Are you ready to propose evidence of that?
It is amazing - true. Remember that evolution is a theory that doesn't address the question of first life - it only shows how existing life can develop new characteristics over periods of time, with larger differences requiring huge amounts of time. We don't know if there is life on some other planet or moon or whatever. Going outside our own solar system, even to the nearest star, is beyond our capability. Our fastest satellite (more than 165,000 mph) would take more than 15,000 years to get to the nearest star - which does not appear to be a likely place for life. Also, going faster is seriously hard, and not just because of propulsion. Of course, we can listen for signals on radio telescopes, but that is limited to life at least as advanced as humans. And, with the distances of space it takes an enormous amount of time for signals to reach us. Signals could be billions of years old - unbelievably ancient history, with NO clue as to what has happened since then. We haven't even verified whether there is life elsewhere else in our own solar system! BTW: This question of life in other places isn't dependent on religion. God might have put life in more than one place.
And yet here we are....little humans who have now travelled with our robots to other worlds, some of which show signs of possible life. We are at the very beginning of an extraordinary period of exploration and discovery which is likely to uncover the abundance of lifes possibilities. It is very unlikely we will contact or communicate advanced beings but, we will probably find little critters in our solar system.
I don't know of anyone having had a religious experience that is directly related to evolution. Let's remember that Christianity doesn't have to be seen as in opposition to evolution. One may have an experience that convinces one that there is a supernatural, a god. But, at that point one must make a number of assumptions in order to reach a position that is in opposition to evolution. Remember that Ken Ham, the guy behind the Creationist Museum, the Ark Encounter and the "Answers in Genesis" group has used evolution as the method by which earth achieved the vast variety of life that we have. His only modification is the idea that God created a "base set" of life forms from which all others evolved. Of course, his modified evolution is obvious nonsense, but it does point out that the discussion does NOT end at Christianity.
I've done this for you several times. Others have, too. You didn't respond. Examples are easily findable by using any search engine. At this point, it is YOUR TURN. Pick something and propose your objection. I'm tired of your unfounded statements about evolution while posting nothing to support anything you've said and categorically dismissing science in terms both of method and result while suggesting that you somehow have respect for science.
Though I don't think there is anything left to add to that conversation about evolution. No one can or is going show you the type of evidence you want to see. Also, while not necessary, I'm sure you have some decent answers to those questions, if you would still like to answer them. The discussion is still scientific as you and many others claim with absolute certainty that the Bible is fact. Religion is no different than posing the theory of evolution as true in this sense. Though you are correct that wouldn't necessarily be an evolution-related discussion. If I created a separate thread for the discussion of the Bible's scientific legitimacy, would you be willing to participate?
Then why should any religion be taught (in any setting) if it lacks scientific evidence? Note: TH, 3 Bethany, OK
