Non-Jews should not be allowed to live in Israel - Israel's Chief Rabbi

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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/10361625/Rabbi-Ovadia-Yosef.html

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    Here on PF I have written about how lots of Israeli jews use their own excrement when they attack and humiliate Palestinians (my main source was Amnesty International). Here's the latest example:
    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/10/harvest-settlers-palestinian/

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    Here's a video of hateful, intolerant orthodox jews that's both sad and hilarious:

     
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    So remind me which one of you wanted to live in Israel?
     
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    Why are Israelis' so opposed to diversity ?
     
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    Because they're scared
     
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    For what reason do you think they're scared?
     
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    You want a positive answer or a negative one?

    POSITIVE: Israel is the only nation of Jews whereas Christians and Muslims have many to choose from. So why should Israel mix?
    NEGATIVE: Israel is a racist nation. I didn't say Jews, I said Israel.
     
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    Because diversity would dispel the myth that they are the 'chosen' people
     
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    Both of these identify Israel as isolationist. Another reason they are scared.
     
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    Fear does not ALWAYS lie behind narcissism.

    I doubt that you know what the expression "the chosen people" means.
     
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    It's no secret that extremist & ultra Orthodox Jews strongly shun intermarriage etc however the belief by some Jews that they are "Chosen People" via their Religion is not quite the same as feeling that they are superior, i.e. a "Master Race"
    On the other hand, the Talmud does state that Jews are superior, can use "subterfuge" etc. but it really depends on the individual.
    I know of no Jews who subscribe to the odious teachings of the Talmud
     
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    Well, you can find plenty of them in this thread. They're usually influential religious and political leaders who advocate the torture, enslavement and murder of non-jews, even children.
     
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    Presumably you consider Israel to be narcissistic, then. I hadn't connected the two. Do a little research and I think you'll find that most references to the root cause(s) of narcissism are 'a feeling of superiority' and 'a sensation of vulnerability'. Seems to me that those two fit Israel pretty much exactly. Looks like I agree with you.

    Noted. I also note you made no offer to enlighten me so, other than a personal insult, what is your point?
     
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    You are confusing contrived "vulnerability" with excuse-motivation . We are beginning to see a lot of this in feminist indignation. "Yes, it's true your honour, he only looked at me when I shot him but it felt as though I was being raped!"



    It's not a personal insult. Ignorance is seldom one's own fault. It is you who is using "The Chosen People" as part of your argument. It is up to you if you want to continue using it incorrectly. I could have said using it merely defeated your point and destroyed your credibility but I chose to give you an opportunity of correcting it. That's no "personal insult". I am interested to know whether you've put as much effort in finding out its meaning as you have in deflecting your misuse of it. Have you?
     
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    According to the Bible, Israel is the Promise Land pledged to Abraham and his seed. All Christians are heirs to that Promise: Galatians 3:28, 29. Therefore, it is supposed to be diversified.
     
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    Levantine history is fascinating.
    The Levant has been a tumultuous home for countless civilizations that even pre-date the Hebrew invasion.
    Sadly, archeologists since the 1700s have gone to the Levant with a Bible in one hand and a shovel in the other in order to validate the OT as historically accurate . Like many pseudo archeologists of today, like Randall Price, they are quick to discard any evidence of other civilizations that predate the Hebrews and do so with the blessing of the Israeli government.

    Yes, just as diverse cultures have lived in what is now Israel - Palestine since the beginning of time so should they continue to today.



    "THE BIBLICAL PSEUDO-ARCHEOLOGISTS PILLAGING THE WEST BANK"
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...archeologists-pillaging-the-west-bank/273488/
    EXCERPT "Finding the elusive, unregulated Israeli bureaucrat who lets American evangelicals run amok in the Palestinian territories.

    The discovery of the scrolls 50 years ago galvanized a resurgent evangelical movement, many of whose members heralded the creation of Israel as evidence of the coming rapture. Since then, the Holy Land has attracted a long succession of academic zealots seeking to tether stories in the Bible to the archaeological record.

    For Randall Price, a mid-50's, sun-reddened pastor from Texas with a neat side part and a booming voice, archaeology is both a scientific and a devotional endeavor. "This was the area where great men of God were tested," he said. "When you're excavating there it puts you in touch, physically, with the reality of those events." Price has spent the last ten years searching for remains of an ascetic Jewish priesthood whom he believes settled in the desert wilderness of Qumran to await the coming of the Messiah and the End of Days. These remains, he said, could provide unprecedented evidence of a biblical text."CONTINUED
     
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    fetch me my slippers
     
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    nope
     
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    How very civil of you. Now why don't you try posting something relevant instead of indulging your linguistic ego? Semantics are so tiring...
     
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    It is not my job to educate anyone "against my will". If I think you are not being earnest the best I will do is point you in the right direction and give you a shove. I've done that. If you are bent on resisting that's your business. I don't care very much. Isn't that clear?
     
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    And that is relevant because...?
     
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    That's my question to you.

    The title of this thread, started by ForumPoster is, "Non-Jews should not be allowed to live in Israel - Israel's Chief Rabbi".

    As motivation to your opinion on the subject, you have introduced a sub-thread involving "The Chosen People". Unfortunately for you, you have misunderstood the meaning of it so that it doesn't strengthen your opinion at all.

    You've lost sight of both the main subject and the sub-subject (that you yourself have introduced) and your latest responses are resembling more of a personal nature than anything to do with the thread/subject. My question on your last 2 replies is, And they are relevant because...?



     

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