FCC plans total repeal of net neutrality rules

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  1. Tim15856

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    The market is not anywhere near a free market. Government controls cable franchises and the radio waves. Only the biggest boys get to play and they collude with each other. https://arstechnica.com/information...ot-to-compete-against-each-other-in-wireless/ https://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/02/verizon-comcast/
     
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    Sure, must be why they backed it. Net Neutrality put them in a regulatory framework that helped protect them from competition from startups that will not have the resources to comply with the regulatory regimen.
     
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    A lot of Trump's supporters are older American to listen to AM radio, watch Fox News, and use their ten-year-old computer to email their friends. They wouldn't know if they're throttled nor not.
    My house in Canada I live in part of the year has 180 Mbps and most Americans have less than half that speed.
    http://www.speedtest.net/global-index

    We're almost as fast as Hungary. Take heart.
    Only 20% of Americans have a passport. You know they aren't going anywhere.
     
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    Seems as though you're from the Swamp.
     
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    Nonsense. Verizon, AT&T, etc, all are thoroughly against net neutrality. They want to be able to throttle connections.

    Stop drinking the ****ing kool-aid and look at this without your partisan slant. Jesus.
     
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    The companies you mention know the costs of NN will have to be passed on to the consumer.

    Google, Facebook, and other giant corporations all support NN. Nice try but fail.
     
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    Light Bulbs.

    Ever heard of Planned Obsolescence? There are light bulbs from the early 1900s that still work (without parts being replaced), but light bulb companies got together and decided to require that each company design their bulbs with a failure rate after a certain time period.
     
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    How in the holy **** is that a good thing for the consumer!?!
     
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    Of course Google and Facebook support Net Neutrality. You seem to misunderstand the entire point of net neutrality, and for a free market guy, I am glad to see your true colors coming out. This is about enriching ISP's and torpedoing competition, not enabling it.

    1. Increased cost from ISP's to websites result in higher costs to consumers.
    2. Enabling "packaging" of net deals is archaic and outdated cable TVism and needs to be avoided at all costs.
    3. The notion I can barter a better deal is a bullshit stance.

    I have 1 provider where I live. This will result in a cornered market. Invariably this will hurt Trump supporters the most.

    Net Neutrality must be maintained, and YOU haven't cited a single real reason why it shouldn't be, beyond soundbytes of idiotic right wing apologists who have no ****ing clue what they're arguing.
     
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    Yep! Sickening, isn't it?

    Net Neutrality must be maintained at all costs. We cannot allow ISP's to keep pushing archaic business platforms to shore up losses on cable/phone deals they only sell to old people.

    If the GOP allows this to pass I will never, ever vote GOP again, and this will result in real civil uprising.
     
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    Comply with the regulatory regimen? What are you talking about?

    And seriously, you think that startups will be able to better compete against telecoms that can ACTIVELY throttle or limit the access of data to those startups?
     
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    Please attempt to explain the logic behind this comment.
     
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    Start ups will be doomed. The conservative methodology here is that we need to save brick and mortar retail stores because of evil Jeff Bezos and the technology brigade are destroying jobs. What a ****ing joke.

    Start ups will be forced to charge higher prices to consumers because they will have to pay ISP's for equal access, and if that's not the case then their entrenched competitors will simply black them out by paying the ISP tons of cash to do so.

    This is the most anti consumer idea ever, and will utterly crush competition from start ups.

    Par for the course, I guess.
     
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    Holy **** man. You are arguing that people should pay more than they currently pay in order to gain what exactly?
     
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    Nothing. In order to gain nothing. That's the whole thing. These rightists think it will reduce cost, but it wont There will be LESS competition.
     
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    The sole reason NN is under assault is because it is an Obama policy.

    No more, no less.

    Repealing it is only appetizing to tyrannical ISP's and no one else.

    And **** Trump and the GOP gestapo if they do this.
     
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    In your mind, archaic 1930's regulation = progress. Your continued use of the propaganda that was not a real issue says much about how well the propaganda worked. Forcing all companies into a central control framework always benefits the big players and stifles innovation and startups.
     
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    You single out old people as your enemy

    But as I study the issue many young people are opposed to government control of the internet also
     
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    How do you think NN results in the government controlling the internet?
     
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    Government pinheads dictate to utilities

    They will do the same for the internet
     
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    Do you trust the power, gas, water companies to run themselves in a manner which benefits you?

    Do you understand or have enough power to police those companies?
     
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    And again nothing but soundbyte arguments and agitprop.
     
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    Net Neturality is not "government control". That is a soundbyte being pitched by right wing apologists to condemn Obama era policy, nothing more, nothing less.

    Why should ISP's be allowed to profiteer and crush competition as long as the highest bidder pays?

    Everyone already hates their ISP.
     
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    No, there is no free market in telecommunications. Wireless is an unworkable option when you need stable broadband speeds.
     
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    It's a monopoly by me.
     

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