Alabama Voters Back To Moore, Nov. 30

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  1. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Moi is seriously :) :)
    about the polls from the State of Alabama regarding Jones (D) v Moore (R).




    The citizens of the State of Alabama are NOT going to let the Yankee press and mere allegations effect them as it would less than Southern States.

    Talk about a snarky headline
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/11/29/roy_moore_surging_in_alabama_senate_polls.html
    Roy Moore Surging in Polls Because Apparently Being Credibly Accused of Sex Crimes Only Matters for Like a Week.​

    Or maybe after some thought, the people of Alabama regard an accusation as just that.
    Not a conviction.

    http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/11/roy-moore-once-again-leading-in-alabama/
    After briefly dropping in the polls following sexual misconduct allegations, Roy Moore is once again leading Doug Jones in the Alabama race for senator. Naturally this reminds me of an old Doonesbury cartoon:
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    The people of Alabama have hope of overcoming "dirty politics".
    And if successful may give the rest of us hope regarding the morality
    of conviction by media.



    Moi :oldman:

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    This seems like a reprise of November 2016. Unbelievable.
    "That’s because Moore — plagued by recent allegations that he courted and molested teenage girls — has tapped into two primal emotions among this segment of the well-educated middle class in the heart of Dixie: fear of perpetuating the stereotype that the state is ignorant and backwards, and the deep resentment many in Alabama feel about out-of-state folks telling them what to do." https://news.vice.com/story/alabama...m-anyway?utm_source=US&utm_campaign=Read More
     
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    The article speaks of wealthy suburbs.
    Are they Alabama Newbies or True Sons of the South?

    Wealthy suburbs indeed.​
     
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    Standard small-town bullshit. Other people staying out of their business even if it means excusing a rapist is the way things are in much of America.
     
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    Allow voters to choose their representation?? THE HORROR!
     
  6. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you ever lived in a small town
    or are you just expressing a trite cliche? Really. Do tell.
    Your profile does not divulge any location. NYC methinks :lol:

    I am a child of the suburbs.
    It was not until I became co owner in a couple of small ranch properties I grew to
    appreciate gun owners.

    One thing feshur, rural folks, small town folks
    allow for space between one another while maintaining "greetings" to their neighbors, sharing and coming to a neighbor's aid.
     
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    What's this talk of rapist? Bill Clinton isn't running and Moore hasn't been accused of anything like that. Are you purposely trying to deceive everyone with a more serious allegation?
     
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    I live in the Rust Belt. I refrain from saying much more than that. Any details about my life I give are all fudged enough to protect my privacy.
     
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    When people talk about the cosiness and generosity of small communities, I'm reminded of Pa Kettle who also appreciated small town mutual supportiveness.
     
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    With the help and aid that Roy Moore has been getting from people like Jimmie Kimmel he cannot lose.

    Moore is being outspent 15 to 1 but it won't make a bit of difference. The mountain to climb was more than that against Luther Strange.
     
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    Unlike the majority of Democrats who showed in the last Democrat primary they are just sheeple who will do whatever they are told, most Republicans actually care about issues that have relevancy to government policies and actions. Most Democrats proved they do not.
     
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    You should post your tax returns on the forum, particularly since you just admitted you lie about yourself on this forum.
     
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    Was there any doubt at any point that Moore would win?

    That's not what this is about. This whole debate is about how voters can put political partisanship above moral standards. Having a Senator that sexually abused minors is embarrassing for the whole country. But it's outright humiliating for Alabama.
     
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    The yearbook is a hoax. Odds are that all the allegations are a hoax.
     
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    Maybe after conviction

    Not Before!


    See the diff?
    Kirstie Alley does, #4 at link

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/news-that-makes-me-happy.519915/



    Remember Straus Kahn!
     
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    There was no indictment. Why should we believe allegations?
    Democrat party is always lying, why we should believe them this time?
    Roy Moore should be elected

    As far as morality, I think special rights (affirmative actions) for democrat party electorate is immoral, but it is a law.
     
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    Man! If this is your understanding of "odds", I would advise you against ever going anywhere near Las Vegas
     
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    What conviction? You just wrote a pre-packaged response without reading the post.

    I'll say it one more time: this is not about Moore. It's about the people who would support a person who has sexually abused minors.

    It's not a legal issue (the crime expired long time ago). It's a moral issue specifically of the people who would put partisanship before the life of children.

    Our country can't go any lower than this.... can it?
     
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    Ok... No sense responding to you. You have no clue what moral values even means.
     
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    Moral value is to ignore anything until we have clear evidence that person is guilty of crime.
    I think it is extremely immoral to issue a post stamp with a face of well known pederast Harvey Milk who seduced mentally ill boy.
     
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    For the last time, he is not guilty of a crime. The crime prescribed. But to any moderately intelligent person, the declarations of, at least, 6 victims and 30 witnesses plus Moore's own non-denial ("generally no") denial... the indication is clear that you are only doing your best to fool yourself. And, if you happen to succeed, you will be the only one fooled. Not nobody else.

    I don't know if to religious people fooling yourself on purpose counts to clean your moral conscience. But to anybody else... no... it's still a lack of moral standards.
     
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    Any moderately intelligent person who is not completely stupid can easily recognize the fact that 6 victims and 30 witnesses cannot appear from nowhere in that short period of time. Any crime have a history, and multiple circumstantial evidences that can be traced, collected and presented as a convincing story. We do not have anything like this here, we do have chaotic attempts to force political candidate to remove himself from the ballot.
     
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    How does "appearing from nowhere" justify Moore's sexual abuse of minors?

    For the thousandth time: This is not about Moore. This is about you. And people who would support, vote for or, at a minimum, find excuses for a sexual deviant only because it is politically advantageous.

    We are talking about children. They lost their innocence to a creep. They will never recover it. We have at least 6 victims. We know he liked to date minors. The mother of a 14 year old testified that he asked her for permission to date her daughter (which she denied). We have former teachers testifying that the guy was known to stalk children in school. We know from security guards that he was banned from the mall for stalking children. We know from many people who knew him at the time that he had a tendency to stalk minors. What more story do you want?

    Ok... you're in denial. You just want to justify to yourself the fact that you defend a pervert. When people get to that stage, there is not much that can be said.
     
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    Did he had sexual relationship with those children?
    I don't think so.
    You know we live in an immoral fantasy world, where women has no responsibility for ruining men's careers. I believe all allegations are exaggerated to the point of nonsense, so lets wait and see how investigation ends.
    I know the the moral of the story, all men is evil, killing a man is a honor.
     
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    Remember Straus Kahn
    Was no lesson learned?


    This is about people calling for "due process".
    And an end to conviction by media.

    YOU Golem have not addressed the circumventing of due process to make judgements.

    Been to any Witch Trials lately.
     

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