POLITICS 11/30/2017 01:42 pm ET Updated Nov 30, 2017 Federal Judge Slams Trump Administration’s ‘Ci

Federal Judge Slams Trump Administration's 'Circular Reasoning' For Imprisoning U.S. Citizen Without Access To Lawyer

The judge ordered the government to tell her by 5 p.m. whether the prisoner has been advised of his rights and whether he has asked for a lawyer.

WASHINGTON — A visibly frustrated federal judge ordered the Trump administration to tell her — by 5 p.m. Thursday — whether an American citizen the government has detained incommunicado for months has been advised of his constitutional rights and whether he has asked for legal representation.

The U.S. government accuses the man of fighting for the Islamic State, but so far has refused to release his name or charge him with any crime. Instead, the military has imprisoned him in Iraq, without access to a lawyer, since mid-September. The man has asked for a lawyer at least twice, the Washington Post reported last month.

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ISIS fighters, shooting at American soldiers, don't deserve "rights". I don't care if he's American, Australian, or Chinese.

 

This is why the left is a bunch of losers. They want a lawyer for an "American" who was fighting for ISIS. I would say the moment he pledge his allegiance to ISIS, he gave up his citizenship.

 

So DUE PROCESS is not for you, neither is it for the US government apparently, despite the Bill of Rights.

"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law." - Edward R. Murrow

 

It's stupid to take prisoners during war. All it does is cause problems for the people who are unlucky enough to end up guarding them.

 

Before I go looking, were you commenting in any of the Roy Moore threads?

I want to see if your belief in due process survives party lines.

As for this ISIS terrorist, I just have one thing to say.

Its really hard to give a **** about the legality of that situation right now when the bigoted leftist extremists of California just set a murderer free for no reason other than he was an illegal invading Brown person and his victim was a White American.

 

Fighting against your own country means you renounce your citizenship and are no longer entitled to the benefits of being a citizen. Sorry. That's the way it goes.

 

Irrelevant but no.

Due process has nothing to do with political parties, it is an unalienable right protected by the Bill of Rights. Sorry I'm not a group thinker, I'm Bob.

What ISIS terrorist? You've already labeled and convicted the man strictly based on accusation without any due process whatsoever.

So not only don't you believe in the constitutionally protected right to due process but you also don't believe in the rule of law. Just hang em high as you see fit. I had a feeling that by posting this article most of the responses would be from fascist mentalities.

If the Nazis holding this man without access to a lawyer were so confident that he committed a crime and it's true, they should have no fear from any defense attorney. Regardless, they are violating their Oath of office. As the judge said:

“That kind of unchecked power is, quite frankly, frightening.”

 

That may be true but it has nothing to do with this discussion. This is about violating the Bill of Rights try to keep up.

 

Treason is not dissent.

 

This thread has nothing to do with the above.

 

No one said it was and that's not the issue here.

 

Apparently it does. This is a military action, not a civil one.

 

This prisoner is a bad person, but whatever they do to him, they'll do to the rest of us. They never stop at the bad people.

 

You're making incorrect assumptions. What I said was its hard to care about this given what had just went down in California. If I had read about this before learning of what the racists in California did I might have had a different opinion.

 

You give up your rights as soon as you take up arms against the United States.

 

He wasnt in uniform so summary execution is the way to go.

 

So are you saying the military is not bound by the Constitution? It seems to me that's exactly why it exists, to protect and defend the Constitution first and foremost. The Oath is a requirement for everyone who seeks to enter the US military. And the right to due process is a basic doctrine protected by the Bill of Rights.

 

America is spelled with a "c", not a "k". You get an F in grammar.

 

Please show me where it says that anywhere for any US citizen detained by the US military, which is what this is about. The US judge apparently disagrees and I'm certain the judge is more qualified than you are to determine that.

 

Except this OP is about what goes on in Amerika, as opposed to what goes on in America. In America, the Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land, in Amerika, there is no Constitution, it's just a g-dam piece of paper. This OP is not about grammar, you get an F for failing to understand the point.

 

My mistake then, your comments strongly suggested otherwise. And this OP is not about what the racists in California did, so that's not relevant to anything in this discussion.

 

Well bruh, tell us what goes on in the fantasy world of Amerika.....

 

Only if the bill of rights applies. If you renounce a citizenship are you still a citizen? If not the bill of rights doesn't apply.