What if it were you

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by kazenatsu, Jul 12, 2017.

  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's abortion of perfectly normal healthy babies that comes from a twisted mind.

    Anyway I can see you don't want to answer that question because you'd be damned either way.
    (if it wouldn't be ethically ok, you have to ask yourself WHY)
     
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  2. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    No, it isn't because "babies" aren't aborted and abortions are as natural as miscarriages..


    but YOU are the one presenting weird sexual scenarios.
     
  3. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know, the whole concept of Abortion sounds like some sort of weird sexual scenario. A woman having her offspring shredded up and sucked out so inconvenient pregnancies won't interfere with her lascivious lifestyle...
     
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  4. Snorri

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    Silly question. We have no awareness inside of the womb so wouldn't care. If we do have awareness then I'd say "BRING IT ON!",
     
  5. FoxHastings

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    Only to you...it really doesn't have anything to do with sex. And before you scream, "What! How does a woman get pregnant!?" I'll explain that once a woman is pregnant sex has NOTHING to do with her right to abort the fetus.


    And when have you ever proven that's the lifestyle of all women who have abortions? NEVER.

    And when have you ever proven that women must have approval from you to have an abortion? NEVER.

    And when have you ever proven that any woman needs any reason but her own for having an abortion ? NEVER.



    And, of course, you left out part of my post you quoted:

    kazenatsu said:
    It's abortion of perfectly normal healthy babies that comes from a twisted mind.""



    FoxHastings: No, it isn't because "babies" aren't aborted and abortions are as natural as miscarriages..
     
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  6. Zeffy

    Zeffy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Says someone who will never, ever be pregnant.....
     
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    Zeffy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What kind of a mind would even *think* of such a scenario????? Holy crap.
     
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    Zeffy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most women who abort are in steady relationships with the man who got her pregnant.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you agree that would be wrong?
     
  10. ESTT

    ESTT Well-Known Member

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    As my life is at the moment, I would prefer for it to have ended in the womb. Though for those of you who enjoy your lives, I can see the logic of why this is a concern.
     
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  11. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Over the years I've come to the conclusion that, in many cases, support for abortion is a projected form of suicidal ideation.

    Maybe the Catholics weren't too far off the mark lumping Abortion with euthanasia and assisted suicide.
     
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    Why would it be a concern for those who are alive...uh, they're alive....and those that never were born have no knowledge of anything.
     
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    You'd never know it. Ergo, no problem. We're all going back to whence we came so I fail to see the problem.
     
  14. FoxHastings

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    Of course you'd think that "" support for abortion is a projected form of suicidal ideation.""

    When one only listens to himself there are no facts to form a correct opinion.
     
  15. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    First of all almost all abortion are done in the first trimester and no one knows at the point if they are “perfectly normal healthy babies“ but you tend to personify it,
     
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    I am sure you have this image of an adorable little toddler being shredded up and sucked out and crying. When in fact it has no neural system no functioning brain and weighs about 1/10 of 1 ounce
     
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    Possibly. But euthanasia is the choice of the individual who wants to die. That is not the case with abortion. I only support it because, if certain religions are correct in their assessment about the true nature of our world, it is better to be aborted prior to being capable of committing sin. Also their is the fact that the mother and fetus are very different in terms of mental capacity for desiring an outcome. But that is a topic for another time, if you wish.
     
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    Sorry, I didn't clarify that. I meant that for those of you who are alive and feel life is worth living, I can see why some of you are concerned about the issue of abortion, as you might want others to experience what you see as a positive.
     
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    From a certain point of view, that could be partially true in my case. But there is also another reason and that is because I support the rights and desires of the fully grown, cognizant human being over one in a fetul stage that cannot even comprehend what rights or desires are.
     
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    I had found that for the most part all those people who wish to force an unwanted baby onto a woman is not at all willing to have the government aid her is raising that fetus to useful adulthood.

    Once more the more a state population is against even birth control the less willing they are to help support the results.

    The highest death rate for mothers giving births in the whole western world is the rich state of Texas as interfering with women right to abortions or even birth control is fine but not spending resources on the mother health.
     
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    I repeat. To those people life begins at conception and ends at birth
     
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    Few see abortion as a positive

    At almost we see it as the classic "necessary evil" and would much rather there be no reason for abortion
     
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    Their condition as “perfectly normal healthy babies“ is not the issue. Many people are not perfect, normal, or healthy, yet they have all the rights and protections of a person and they cannot be killed (or even legally allowed to kill themselves).

    The issue is whether an unborn baby is a person. Its clearly a person during the 3rd trimester, that was even recognized in Roe v Wade. The real question is at what point between conception and the end of the 2nd trimester does it become a person?
     
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    It isn’t legal for a healthy woman to abort a healthy fetus after viability...it doesn’t happen! It’s a strawman, Most abortions are done in the first trimester when the fetus weighs less than 1 ounce and has no neural connections .
     
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    There is NO "issue".

    It becomes a legal person WITH RIGHTS at BIRTH.

    The End.

    As a fetus, after 23 weeks it has PROTECTIONS NOT RIGHTS.



    IF a fetus was deemed a person with rights it would also have the same RESTRICTIONS all other PERSONS have....it could NOT use another's body to sustain it's life so women still would have the right to abort it..
     
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