Alabama Voters Back To Moore, Nov. 30

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  1. AlNewman

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    Start a loser, end a loser this will all just be a bump along the way.

    But by stench, are you referring to the whining of the anti-Trump crowd that seems by experience to only last about 6 months, which means we have to put up with all this whining all the way up to the elections. The story itself will trail off to obscurity after the election when the women will be found to have exaggerated their stories so all the string pullers can run for the woodwork leaving the sacrificial animals.

    But I have a question, what about these roundups of pedophiles that are occurring with the progressive left being the majority? And believe me in no way is the red party innocent but not on the same level. Just how far up these chains will this go? That sure looks like a high speed elevator than can go right to the top.
     
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    byline National Enquirer: Hill of Horror -- Gropers, Cheaters, Liars, Grifters, Thieves!
     
  3. AlNewman

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    Please show exactly where any Republican politician has used the word "are" in their statements, not could or may but directly "are". As to what Trump's daughter says, who cares, she is just the hired help not the maker of decisions, not here, not this gig.

    But I really like your moral standards when one that might have done something is immoral but another that, thanks to wikileaks, is well beyond guessing is your perfect candidate. That person that has scammed charity, sold our nuclear material to Russia, ran a pay for play operation out of the State Department. But they should have been president.
     
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    Now that would probably scare Roy Moore.
     
  5. Natty Bumpo

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    What is amusing is that even GOP leaders who readily acknowledge the credibility of Moore's victims are tormented by ethics vs expediency. The molester is a lose/lose prospect for Republicans.

    Hilarious! Morality abandoned by the shiny enticement of putting an (R) arse on a seat!
     
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  6. TheImmortal

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    You mean other than the fact that it was 40 years ago and she can’t keep her story straight?
     
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    The people who vote for him obviously don’t believe he’s a pedophile. Not sure why you can’t understand that.
     
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  8. Moi621

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    Your polls are national, not State of Alabama polls.
    Figures don't lie but liars can figure don'tchyaknow.

    Plus after the Hillary debacle I have very little respect for polls.


    The people of Alabama may well believe in due process
    where as the people of NYC believed that sob story from
    the hotel maid regarding Straus Kahn.
     
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  9. Natty Bumpo

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    I've always acknowledged the ethical hypocrisy of White evangelicals in Alabama.

    His election by them would befoul Republicans nationally - as many of them have acknowledged.

    Again, you keep confusing an election with a criminal trial. "Due process" is not applicable.

    It's all very amusing, isn't it?
     
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    No! You are confusing
    Child molester with Alleged Child Molester
    and do not fathom the diff. :nana:
     
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    GOP - Grand Old Perverts

    This was coined by a Republican pundit!
     
  12. Natty Bumpo

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    I never claimed that the sexual pervert's stalking teenagers made him a "child molester", although some, whether they still support him or not, clearly deem him so.
     
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    Love what will happen around college campuses and you take them seriously?





    Morality was abandoned long ago when some certain president met a young jewish girl that couldn't get out stains and liked cigars. So to what false pretense of morality are you referring?
     
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    Some like their diversions, but could sluts like Bill Clinton or Donald Trump get elected in today's greater sensitivity to sexual depravity?

    Only in Alabama.
     
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    There only two people who claim that Moore did anything illegal. One of which refuses to produce the one piece of “evidence” that she has that looks clearly forged. And the other one cannot keep her story straight even after forty years of doing so.

    She claimed first that at 14 she went to Moores room and was stripped down to her underwear and made to wait while Moore went into the bathroom, got undressed to his tighty whiteys and then sexually assaulted her.

    But in the last interview she gave she asserted that when she went to his house he went to the bathroom and got undressed and THEN stripped her down to her underwear.

    That is a salient detail that someone who had actually gone through that experience would never forget. Having to sit in a strange house in your underwear at 14 after some 30 year old just stripped you down before he comes out in his underwear and touches you is not something one would forget or leave out of a testimony and timeline of events.
     
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    The only good thing to come out of Alabama.....ah ****! I'll be back I am going to have to do some serious Google Fu and find something, one thing at least.
     
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    Of course it is! Paraphrasing is changing the wording of a phrase while keeping the underlying meaning.

    You accused me of "misquoting" only because you didn't know what "paraphrasing" meant. Now that you know, you might want to avoid ridiculing yourself by trying to justify unjustifiable accusations.
     
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    None of the multiple parties (mostly registered Republicans) who have confirmed Moore's habitual behavior of stalking teenage girls has been shown to have any reason to lie, nor his victims who reluctantly related their personal experiences after a reporter followed up on accounts he had been hearing, located the individuals who were unknown to one another, and encouraged them to share their stories.

    I have no idea where you are getting your accounts that attempt to discredit his victims, as those with a partisan motive to smear them will parrot their fake sources, but no one but Moore has been shown to have an incentive to lie, and even many GOP partisans do not find his denials remotely credible.

    Many Republicans - who would dearly love to buy Moore's story - cannot.

    Just a few:

    Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who vacated the seat that Moore is a candidate for: "I have no reason to doubt these young women."

    Senator Richard Shelby (AL) told CNN reporters Wednesday he would “absolutely not” vote for Roy Moore and called the allegations “disturbing.” Shelby said he would write in a “distinguished Republican” on Dec. 12.

    Missouri Republican Sen. Roy Blunt said that women who have made allegations against Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore of Alabama have "a more credible story" than Moore.

    House Speaker Paul Ryan: "No. 1, these allegations are credible. No. 2, if he cares about the values and the people he claims to care about, then he should step aside."

    As Ivanka Trump stated, "There's a special place in hell for people who prey on children. I've yet to see a valid explanation and I have no reason to doubt the victims' accounts,"

    As Mitt Romney noted, "Roy Moore in the US Senate would be a stain on the GOP and on the nation. Leigh Corfman and other victims are courageous heroes. No vote, no majority is worth losing our honor, our integrity."

    Moore, who could not keep his story straight as whether he knew any of his victims, (Moore initially admitted that he knew some of the women and called women like Debbie Wesson Gibson a “good girl.” [He also remembered Gloria Thacker Deason]. Then recently he abruptly did a 180 turn and said that he did not know any of the women.) now hides from the press and their questions.

    His hiding certainly makes sense.
     
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    First of all you literally quoted The Who’s who of establishment republicans and claim they’d love to believe moore. That’s patently absurd. Those are the same people who did not support him during the primary because he’s not establishment and is an actual conservative. The idea that they want Moore in office is so incredibly laughable it’s almost pathetic.

    Second of all your description of what has occurred borders on dishonesty. The other women who had any real contact with Moore stated he did nothing illegal. And in fact on the two occasions he stepped over the line by kissing them and they told him to stop and take them home, that’s exactly what he did according to their own testimony. This is in direct contradiction to the report of the other two girls who claim he got aggressive and refused to take them home and then sexually assaulted them.

    And my claims are simply fact. The one woman with the yearbook that she refuses to release claimed she worked at the restaurant at 14 when she couldn’t have done so because the legal age to work in Alabama at that time was 15. The other girl who was 14 claimed he stripped her to her underwear before he went to the bathroom in one interview and then claims he stripped her after he went to the bathroom in another.

    There is literally ZERO credible evidence that Moore did anything illegal. And the ONLY two witnesses who said he did either lied or can’t keep their story straight. Making their testimony completely unreliable.

    To assert the man is guilty based on that flimsy BS is preposterous.
     
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    Says the party of senator Stubbs who actually did have sex with a minor and was lionized by his Democratic colleagues for his "vision" in the days before kiddie porn was a federal crime.
     
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    Maybe some. But I refuse to believe that majority of them are complete idiots.
     
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    The only idiots are the people vilifying, condemning and declaring guilty Moore with literally zero evidenceexcept for the claims of two women from 40 years ago who told no one of consequence during that 40 years. One of whom lied about working at the restaurant she claims he sexually assaulted her at and refuses to release the yearbook that is clearly a forgery.

    And the only other accuser can’t keep her story straight after having 40 years to do so. To claim the man is guilty with that evidence is the very definition of partisan idiocy.
     
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    If you insist upon charging Moore with crimes in order to evoke your "due process", of course you can.

    Everyone else seems to be focused upon the election, and whether the White evangelicals of Alabama will send a lying teenage predator to join Republican senators in Washington who do not want the degenerate.

    Let's hope they do!​
     
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    You are clearly an ideological extremist who is eager to have a lying predator of teenage girls in the Senate.

    You will believe what you need to believe despite the overwhelming, credible evidence.
     

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