Islam scholar in Norway-We want to bring light to Europe so Europeans decide that they want Islam ..

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    ondon-based Islamic scholar Haitham Al-Haddad, originally from Saudi Arabia, gave an address in Norway in which he talked about the alienation that many young people feel toward the European country in which they live and said that this was what led to the appeal of ISIS. "Taking over Europe is a negative statement," implying military force, he said, "but what we want is to bring light to all Europeans, so Europeans themselves decide that they want Islam." Al-Haddad further said that "Western values should include Islamic values, because Islam is part and parcel of Europe." He called for more young Muslims to become lawyers, politicians, and journalists, exhorting them not to "sit passive." "Islam has spread in many countries without shedding a drop of blood," he said.
    Many [Muslim youth] live in this country, as Norwegians, they don't feel that they are Norwegians. They don't feel that they have a responsibility towards this country. They don't feel that they are Europeans. They don't feel that they have a responsibility towards Europe. That's why, my dear brothers and sisters, – and many of you are young – what happens? On the other side, ISIS is there. They are very active on social media, and they are very active in grooming you. They will tell you 'Yes, leave this infidel country. Leave them. Come to us. We built the Islamic State. We built the Islamic Caliphate. You don't belong to them. You belong to us. Come to us. You can't implement Islam [in the West], and we have implemented shari'a here. That country is not your country.

    https://www.memri.org/tv/london-saudi-islamist-haddad-in-norway-islam-to-bring-light-to-europe/transcript

    Yeap .. Islam is the light to Europe.. Blahhh
    I say - kick the bastard out to one of the 22 Arab countries he came from.
     
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    If I have the choice between Islam and dying and going to hell, I would choose the second option in a heartbeat. And if after 10 000 you put me out of hell and give me the choice to choose islam and go back to hell, I would choose hell in a heartbeat and if I had the choice between Europe getting nuked or become muslims, I would choose the nukes.
    Islam is one of the great shadow of the world, I put it in the same category than the south american cartels.
     
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    Europe is nearly lost to Islam.
     
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    If islam only wants to convert the godless euros peacefully then no harm no foul

    But when they find the euros are ignoring allah it will be time for plan b
     
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    Has been claimed on this forum for many, many years, always by the same people for some strange reason.
    I live in Europe, I think I have some first hand knowledge.
     
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    Not now. Even in France, muslims make up 10 to 20 % of population, not in position to create their islamic state for now.
     
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    In Submission, they didn't need a majority to gain power. I wonder what percentage of leftists would rather have a coalition with an Islamic party to keep populist nationalists out of power?
     
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    They could always use dollars instead ;)
     
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    Europe has a population of 1.3% muslims. Thats less than USA has. Im glad we did not reach your level yet.
     
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    How you explain why the muslims got hunted out of east germany last year? They tried to settle some in eastern german states and people revolted and attacked openly.
     
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    Submission is about France. That was the context.
     
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    Been to Malmo lately? How about the northern parisian suburbs? Have you visited Cologne on any recent new years' eves? How come that city cancelled its christmas celebration because it lacked the funds for security?
     
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    France is over 10%, and the UK not far behind. Germany just took in over 1MM; and that does not include the millions of Turks already there.

    The only smart EU countries keeping them out are the same ones your scumbag leader Merkel is suing to force to accept muslims, like Hungary and Poland.
     
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    Germany has 3.5% muslims. Eastern Germany 0,4%. I never met a single muslim in my entire life. My state Thüringen has not one mosque. I dont see the problem sir.

    As for Merkel, you have no knowledge whats going on here. The million came in 2015, when Europe had no border. Merkel locked Europe down and numbers dropepd by 97%. Meanwhile she tries to get rid of the ones who made it here. Of course i want Poland to also take some of those who made it here. Do you think we want keep them or what?

    Poland or Hungary either take some from us or wont get any money in the future. Its that easy.
     
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    I think you are not exactly stating the facts. Merkel welcomed them to germany, which is why they bypassed dozens of other countries to get there. The US muslim pop is about 3% as well, and hopefully that percent will decline significantly over time.

    Poland and any other nation have a right to refuse entry into their country those people they deem unworthy of allowing it, and Germany has benefitted enormously economically of the backs of the cheap workers from other parts of Europe. For it to kick those same countries - like Poland - for not kneeling to its demands while it made a lot of money off of them is pathetically hypocritical. Merkel has no leg to stand on; if she really didn't want all those migrants should could have stopped them a lot sooner than waiting for them to reach central Europe. She wants them as a cheap labor source; they are Germany's mexicans.
     
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    Merkel welcomed ****. They were already inside the EU. They allowed those in travel here so borders inside EU dont get closed down. Germany depends on open borders inside EU. meanwhile she locked down the Balkan route to stop the flow. She even builds concentration camp like camps on greek islands. Pays mafia to push back boats in the med. Builds amssive fences and now even makes dirty deals with Assad and other tyrants like Lukashenko to get rid of them.

    You dont know Merkel. She is evil to the core. All she wants is staying on power. She can be left and far right from one day to another. You dont know that type of politician.

    Poland can refuse ****. We pay so they exist. They eitehr take the burden from us or we let them perish.

    The ones who made it here cat read and write ad will never work. Germany even pays them money so they leave.

    Before talking bullshit you should face reality.

    All the scum is eastern europe, who took our money but did not secure their borders. They either help us now or pay the price. And they should know the price. They payed it often enough in the past.
     
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    I have never been to Sweden, have you? I have never been to Paris, have you?
    Have you visited Colone on a recent New Year's Eve?
    The Christmas Market in Cologne is in full swing, so I'm not sure what your source for that claim could be.
    That 'took in over 1 Million Muslims' is simply false. Are you American? Just asking to put things into context. I've yet to meet an American user on this forum who's got the actual numbers for Germany right. And putting Turks who've lived in Germany for three generations into the same category as newly arrived refugees only makes sense if we want to look at things in the most superficial way possible.
    All that has very, very little to do with "Europe is nearly lost to Islam."
    Strange that people who live five or six thousand miles away think they know better.
     
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    Uh, no.

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    The problem is not the ideal.
    The problem is the "Or Else"
    part of the message not written.



    Moi
    :oldman:
    Serve Pork in
    Public Schools!


    r > g


    :nana: :flagcanada:
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    Wow!

    While we slept.


    Same for :flagcanada: quiet invasion of :flagus:
     
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    Not every Muslim thinks alike so I'm not sure about a couple of folks trying to fill in the blanks with 'what else' on here.

    As to the OP, I can't say I see anything wrong with the message the guy is trying to send. What he's telling the youth is instead of letting yourself be defeated by those who view you as an outsider, work your ass off and become a productive citizen. He's also trying to appeal that groups like ISIS are praying on those who let themselves be defeated by those who paint them as outsiders.

    'One man's garbage is another man's treasure' sort of thing....

    When it comes to the religious thing, well, there's plenty of Christian groups 'spreading' Christianity in the Middle East so again, don't see anything wrong with it outside of the fact that I'm an atheist and therefore, disagree with every religion.
     
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    You should worry more about your blacks and hispanics. Our muslims reach not even one eigth of those numbers, your country in large parts looks like timbuktu.
     
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    My friend .. maybe 1.3% are listed .. 15% are not.
    They are illegal and not registered.
    The numbers are much higher than you think.
     
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    Where in Germany do you live? And how comes so many americans appear retared for us?
     

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