How about a new abortion law

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by logical1, Dec 15, 2017.

  1. thinkitout

    thinkitout Well-Known Member

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    Many don't realize the unique problems all too often encountered when a woman in an abusive relationship becomes pregnant, not always being able to demand the use of a condom.

    Captive dependency and ability to escape issues loom large in the future, and often present a situation which is literally a matter of life or death.

    Even more frequently, abortion is used by women to avoid escalating male domination and accompanying controlling behavior.
     
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    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who couldn't take being proven wrong and had my posts deleted? lol
     
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    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's actually a baby from conception. Because there is mental and emotional trauma from deciding to kill and unborn baby, folks have decided to make it easier by using misnomers or scientific terms which a cold and clinical.

    I'll use the proper term and you can use the cold clinical terms. Okay?

    I told you earlier today and it was deleted. The parents of the two children who decided to have sex will pay half of the fee. Any adults who had sex and made a baby can also pay half of the fee.

    The alternative to this is to have yourself sterilized or don't have sex.

    That's called taking responsibility for your actions.

    I've already posted a link proving this incorrect. Do you need to see proof of food stamps, welfare, chip, or WIC? Where do you think that money comes from, a tree in the backyard?

    Maybe these are excellent reasons to teach children not only how to have sex, but the dangers of having sex? Place the blame where it is due, not on the innocent. Quit avoiding parental responsibilities.

    It's already imposed on all taxpayers. I'm suggesting how to place the responsibility(in your words burden) where it is deserved. How about you? Nope. You want all of us to pay for your mistakes and lack of responsibility.

    I don't know. Maybe because I didn't make the baby? Those two having fun with their bodies should have the responsibility, or their parents?
     
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    I have had an IUD, it was pure HELL. I am currently battling with my OB/GYN because he wants me to get a Mirena if the biopsy is negative. I refuse, even to prevent cancer. Will never, EVER have another one.

    Nobody should be forced to have one or to take the pill. EVER.

    https://www.news5cleveland.com/news...s-complications-from-mirena-iud-birth-control
     
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    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We all pay in our taxes. I posted a link. Check it out. Maybe it was deleted? lol

    Nope, those who had sex, unless underage will pay. If those having sex are underage, their parents or guardians pay. That's how to take responsibility for your own actions works. Or should I say, that's how to place burden on those who asked for it.
     
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    It's a UTERUS, and give me just ONE example of that happening.
     
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    Legal abortion cannot be murder. Do learn the meaning of words before using them.
     
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    I support sex ed that teaches how a woman gets pregnant, the options for contraception including sterilization and abstinence, sti and std ed and how to avoid them by abstinence, condoms and their failure rates, dental dams and their failure rates, and many more things, including abortion for those who want it and paid for by those having sex or their parents/guardians only,

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    I am not left wing, but you are wrong. Pain is not capable of being felt until the 3rd trimester.

    http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=201429
     
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    I provided it. Was it deleted? It's in the new tax laws. It was on page 23 of this thread.
     
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ax-and-spending-bills/?utm_term=.b0eb89d628e5
     
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    I have asked and asked why Anti-Choicers think using birth control is an obligation and none have ever provided an answer.


    But it does speak to their hatred of women that they don't care what different forms of BC can do to women...
     
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    Abstinence works. It takes a great deal of character, if you cannot afford to have a baby, to be abstinent. Most don't have it. It can be taught.
     
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    I believe a reaction to touch would be proof the baby can feel. If the baby can feel, they can feel pain.

    Read more: http://www.doctorsonfetalpain.com/fetal-pain-the-evidence/
     
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    It doesn't take character.......it takes a non-existent sex drive...
     
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    That baby wants to live from conception.
     
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    How asinine to think one knows how a zygote thinks especially since it can't...total lack of logic...
     
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    Robert has apparently given up here and started his own thread defending Roy Moore; you may want to help him out there. . . . Or you may want to start your own thread on why the issue of pointless murders by guns SHOULD NOT be addressed???

    p.s. The new tax laws do suck, don't they???
     
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    If you read the link, you will see how much the Democrats changed the original. It's all spelled out.

    If you can't take the heat...

    So far, it is just nice and warm. It makes me feel alive, unlike the aborted unborn babies.

    Edit: Also, if you can understand what they wrote, the proof that we have been paying for abortions for years with our taxes is in there.
     
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    7 Billion people say you are wrong
     
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    How can you call it pregnancy when the baby is not a "baby", until it is born? By your own arguments, this is not a child or a murder.
     
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    They don't have character? What? Provide source information.
     

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