If any beings were capable of getting here it is terribly unlikely they would be stupid enough to fly around with their lights on at night with such violent natives around.
Any portion of scripture is good for instruction, but no portion is good for conclusion. Conclusions should only be drawn from the full counsel of God's creation.
LOLOL.. Once I saw something very, very strange in the night sky.. and I saw it quite clearly. I asked my daughter and her boyfriend to come and look.. Neither of them could see what I was seeing.. Turned out ..it was my cataracts..
That's a really good point. We all end up looking through our eyes, our glasses, the windows of houses, cars, airplanes, etc. And, light is transmitted through air that includes all kinds of stuff from molecules to garbage, mixed as per its source, wind, temperature, etc. So with UFO, we certainly got the "unidentified" part right! But, these things do NOT always end up being "flying" or "objects". Maybe they should be called "unidentified visual anomalies".
I don't rule out the possibility of alien UFO's. Does anyone seriously believe we are alone in the Galaxy/universe? I would tell you about my 'alien' abduction, but I would be in trouble with the InterGalactic Police.and the InterGalactic prison on `the planet **22x##@" in the Orion Galaxy is extremely tough - well, so they say.
The odds of this planet being the only one with "so called" intelligent life, are so astronomical that thinking there isn't beings visiting, is as plausible as winning both the power ball and the mega millions at the same time. One scientist says we came from monkeys, another says we came from aliens...I think it's both....republicans prove everyday that they came from monkeys. And liberals are smart enough to have come from more advanced technological aliens. Nanu nanu!
Funny you should ask. The night before a friend was riding up highway 666 with me to a Rainbow Gathering. I was telling him about the spaceship I saw out in space(again with another friend), and he was a total skeptic, told me I shouldn't do so much acid. Next morning we decided not to hike in to the gathering, because we both knew that if we did, we'd end up quitting out jobs that we had to be at a day later. So we headed down to Silver City to see one of my old friends. Only five miles from Silver City the UFO showed up hovering over the road in front of us. We drove right up to it, and it cloaked, and showed up again another mile down the road....we drove up to it again and it did the same thing. But the third time it didn't cloak as we drove under it. And my friend was begging me to stop so he could go out and try to catch a ride with it. I had always thought that if I got the chance, I'd try to catch a ride myself....but what if they took him and not me? How would I explain? I decided not to stop.
There are problems with the idea of aliens visiting. We've spent a lot of time looking for life inside our solar system, and don't see evidence of there being intelligent life anywhere. There may be life of some sort. There may be fossil evidence of life during some period where some planet or moon could support life. But, there aren't signs of active intelligent life forms. Outside our solar system is where the odds of life get larger, because the "outside" is so stupendously huge. However, our full understanding of physics provides no possible method for objects like UFOs to travel the distances required. The fastest we can imagine an object traveling would still require huge amounts of time - tens or hundreds of thousands of years of travel time to objects that aren't all that far away by cosmology standards. This isn't just a matter of us not being able to build something, or budget, or cool new technology to harness some aspect of physics, or whatever. The limits of physics make the required distances a very serious barrier.
You can buy your own "spaceship" online at Amazon. It will come with a live feed camera, remote control, ability to move darn fast and change direction on a dime. They can fly high enough to be illegal wrt the FAA. They can have lights. Then YOU can be a space alien, visiting earth!!
You really need to read the articles through. 'These primeval people aren't parallel to the biblical Adam and Eve. They weren't the first modern humans on the planet, but instead just the two out of thousands of people alive at the time with unbroken male or female lineages that continue on today'..
My question is... Why do people who aren't Christians discregard the fact that the old Bible knew things before science ever did. And that the Bible got it right the first time unlike science. For example: 1. Old Testament says earth is round/sphere. Science said it was flat first before agreeing with the Bible. 2. Old Testament says earth has a free float. Science first said earth sat on a large animal before agreeing with the Bible. Looks to me like the Bible was a pro while science shamefully worked itself up to the Bible's level. The earth sat on a large animal is the dumbest I've ever heard from science to be honest.
With respect I suggest you look back at what has already been posted. And Science has never said the above. People have.
False. Christians were the ones arguing for the earth being flat. There was never any scientific argument for the earth being flat. The Bible does not say anywhere that the earth is a sphere. At all. Another falsehood. There was never any scientific claim that the earth rested on an animal. That was religion. The Bible is full of claims that are scientifically false. The claim that science ever claimed this is far, far "dumber." There was never a scientific claim that the earth sat on an animal. Funny that you think this is dumb but you don't think that the Bible's unscientific claims are dumb.
All of this is like numerology, or nostrodamus. If you squint hard enough and are desperate enough, and have enough imagination you can sort of say that some pieces of the bible may kind of sound like scientific reality if you ignore all the pieces that are grossly incompatible with reality (which is, when you think about it, a really bad record for something supposedly inspired by divinity). Now, I have a more interesting question: given that god made man in his own image, does that mean that he (or she, actually a good question, what gender would it be?) has hands? .. for example..
I see that as good news. I think it leaves open the possibility that the universe could have been created such that life in the image He desired was inevitable. (In fact, such life as he desired may exist in other places as well!!) The major problem I see in the discussion as a whole is that it's not so totally clear that Genesis is literal (ie, not an allegory) and factually correct (as interpreted by us) that it justifies tossing out biology. As it stands today, evolution is one of the founding principles of all modern biology. Biology is a worthwhile endeavor, not legitimately identified as the enemy of Christianity. Biologists are reporting what they see - they aren't the enemy, marshalling an assault on the Abrahamic religions. Beyond that, cosmologists are also reporting what they see. Such scientists from around the world aren't coming together to form an assault on Christianity.
In my research it was science who said it in the past before correcting itself. And I like science and would even be a scientist but liked another major slightly better. Plus, I don't fully trust science much lol.
Then those "Christians" are idiots. Many don't know their bible. And yes the bible specifially says earth is a round in many verses. Here's one. And this is still old testament so really old news to Christians who know the bible. Isaiah 40:22 "He sits enthroned above the CIRCLE of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in." And people and scientists alike did believe earth was flat in the past until this educated man in science and other areas realized earth was not round. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes It was usually said on a turtle or elephant. You can research it I'm a bit pressed on time because at work. Basically on the past science and people believed it before realizing it didn't. So yeah some religions believed it too I don't disagree with you. But bible told christians otherwise and still in Old Testament. Job 26:7 "He stretches out the north over the void and hangs the earth on NOTHING." So far it got right that earth is round and had a free float before science came to this conclusion. I would list more things but as I said pressed on time. Old testament also said wind blew in cyclones and not straight. Research when science figured this out as true. Eccleasiates 1:6 "The wind blows to the south and turns to the north; round and round it goes, ever returning on its course." I think I made my point.
Yeah, of course. But can you be more specific about what you want me to provide a source about so I find the right thing?
I would like to see cites for the science part of what you labelled as 1 and 2 above. For curiosity mostly, I admit. After all, at the time there wasn't anything like scientific method - what we call science today.
Isaiah 40:22 When I draw a circle on paper it is not a sphere. When I spread a cover like a tent it is on a flat surface I have chosen. Everything indicates a flat earth theory that was prevalent at the time. You are simply transferring modern understanding back 2,700 years and applying it to that time. In the same way you can transfer modern thinking to Ezekiel's chariots and come up with UFO's. With 2000+ years of translations much of the original meaning has been lost. Comparing the Hebrew helps with understanding ancient culture and thinking. The earth does not 'hang on nothing'. It 'hangs' on the suns gravity field, which the ancients knew nothing about. If it didn't it would be flying around the Universe, pushed this way and that by the gravity force of any object if went near - or crashing into a planet or sun somewhere. It would become a 'rogue' planet of which there are millions. Ecclesiastes has little to do with cyclones. Cyclones blow themselves out.
We can discuss it more of course but going to bring two links before going to bed since they're interesting especially the second one. And you're right back then we had limited resources to call science. So it was like the people who studied the world the best they could without telescopes or other tools were known as scientists back then. Which isn't much to go on so just the popular belief that dwelt amongs people probably. Well, this link I like because this was finally when it was confirmed earth wasn't flat. But before this the most accepted belief was flat earth among people. Obviously it was proven earth wasn't flat during his life time from 276BC-194BC since he proved it. Much later than scripture of course. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes He basically found a way to confirm it since some speculated that it may not be flat. And I like how this researcher pointed out that the belief of earth resting on a large animal had to be concluded from looking down upon the earth. The world believed the earth sat on a turtle and she explains why they probably came to this conclusion. A bit creepy to me.
Ok. Circle not a sphere. And some translations say round. Point is it doesn't say flat. If it said flat there would be nothing else to say. Read it however you wish though. We can return to this if it matters much. And we can get to the equator verse and night and day all at one time one the earth depending on time zone verse since flat earth would either be dark or light during 24 hour cycle since that whole flat side will be facing or not facing sun at one time. Earth is not held up by anything visible giving it a free float look but bible refers to placing the earth on it's foundation (which is what you call the gravital force which it can't be removed from it.) I don't disagree. Psalm 104:5 "He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved." Enjoy your free float on gravity to keep it hanging as it will always remain on it and "never be moved". Yes, Ecclesiastes has little to do with it. Just a few mentions. And yes blows itself out "ever returning to it's course" meaning undoing itself always afterwards. Gots to sleep now
