I want to start an online outreach to Satanists....

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Can demons be given hope?

  1. No... the demons have zero hope!

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  2. Yes..... Elijah must "restore all things"

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  3. I am not sure but I will research this further.

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  1. DennisTate

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    Technically.... I am a Christian......
    but I see amazing potential in both Christians.......
    and our supposed arch-rivals..... Satanists.........
    beginning to discuss our each..........
    promoting the being of light of NDE fame........
    for two completely different reasons?

    I personally think that the being of light of NDE fame is probably
    Messiah Yeshua - Jesus keeping a couple of his promises .....
    but some of my online Satanist friends... tend to think that the being of light of NDE fame is
    actually Satan........
    for their own but quite different reasons............

    .... and I am thinking that whoever the being of light of NDE fame really is..........
    if Christians and Satanists can find some common ground here........

    then a step toward genuine peace on earth could be taken that would be right up there with a major step toward peace in the Middle East???

    I got this idea after reading a discussion somewhere here.......
    entitled "Hate is not the way of the Satanist"

    ......
    I can see how a lot of my Christian friends might tend to think my Satanist friends are correct about the being of light being really Satan.... appearing as an "angel of light"....... based on what the being of light of NDE fame stated to near death experiencer Christian Andreason..........

    Spirituality
    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/
    Matthew 22:14

    "For many are called, but few are chosen."

    Matthew 7:13

    "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:"

    I can see why so many of my Christian friends get really offended by the seemingly overly optimistic statements that some near death experiencers receive during their brush with death.........
    which causes them to doubt the source of NDE accounts.

    I am thinking that all of this fits with the idea that the Cosmic Joke theory has some relevance to what is really happening on earth.........

    http://www.thomastwin.com/7 A Thomas samples.html
     
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    Here is the verse that will jump into the minds of many of my Christian friends when they read about the Being of Light of NDE fame's case for eventual universal salvation..........

    2Corinthians 11:14
    "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."

    John 16:25

    These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father."

    So... the time is coming.... in the future......
    when Messiah Yeshua - Jesus will be able to explain everything clearly and plainly...........

    ... which in my opinion is what is being done when Eventual Universal Salvation is elaborated on.........
     
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    So basically......
    I am thinking that if Christians and Satanists... can begin to come together
    .... on some really big questions........
    that could be great news for the whole world.


    Reverend Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience
    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/howard-storm.html#a04

    My goal is to set in motion a series of events that leads to.......
    The Ancient of Days the Father ... who Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus stated was greater than him and was actually the One doing the miracles.........
    feeling free to laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh.........
    at the same time that Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan..... is also in a fit of laughter.............
    probably for somewhat different reasons.... but none the less..........

    .... both are really finding the whole thing humorous............
    One suggestion would be that my online Satanist friends create a new designation......
    "Honorary Satanist"...... and yes.... I am guilty.... .I am a Christian who would actually rather enjoy being given one of those .............. in spite of the probable spells cast on it.......... assuming it was some kind of trophy ........ or plaque........

    (.... warning... my daughter has told me that I remind her of Jim Carrey)........
     
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    Strangely enough.... I am closer to agreement with you on this than you might at first tend to think because............

    my belief..... is that Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan.... is actually quite ETHICAL.......
    I suspect that he has become the number one former Covering Cherub... who is
    lately.......in charge of the DESTRUCTION OF PRIDE!

    He did fall into pride.......
    doing so did... I think ... get him kicked out of the highest levels of heaven but.........
    He has since admitted to his error and is probably determined to root pride out of his followers..........
    He does this... by allowing them to think that pride.......
    exaggerated confidence... is an asset........

    because Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan.. is an off the scale brilliant actor........

    The fall of Lucifer......
    increased his RANGE as an actor......

    https://www.near-death.com/science/articles/richard-eby-and-secomd-coming-of-christ.html
     
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    Seventeen talk eaten darkness glass tender sawdust Lioness waterfall decimal grandeur only right foot Stevia talk. Slender pick-up licking Orville desperate Elephant Pumpkins.
     
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    If and when AboveAlpha comes back.......
    I betcha he could have a ball interpreting this obvious coded message to those of us with fifty or a hundred more IQ points than I do...............
    Like many Satanists though.......
    I am kind of egotistical and I might try... .Humnnn......
    17 = victory
    talk = how to attain victory....
    eaten..... we all get eaten... metaphorically...... even by the chickens, fish, cattle, lambs and others that we literally eat......
    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/with-pets.html

    darkness... is relative... and the light within me... is pretty dark..... sort of.....
    glass..... i wouldn't mind having one right now at all......
    tender...... slow cookers are useful......
    sawdust..... don't talk to me about that stuff... I worked in forestry from the late '70's until '97 when back pain made it impossible for me to continue......

    Lioness Arising..... and off the scale wealthy Christian women.....

    ....waterfall....... even into hell itself according to the Book of Enoch.....(if I remember correctly)...... i am sure you get the drift by now.........
     
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    When the four living creatures come down to the earth.......
    not even Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan would want to mess with them......
    Bob Jones describes them around the 1:06 minute mark in this video........

    Wow.....

     
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    These "Living Creatures" entered the Earth biosphere on March 17th of 1962 AD in secret and disguised form after instantaneous transfer from station 264 (Heaven) in the Virgo cluster. The sinister incorporation into Earth culture has been successfully implemented thus far and should reach fruition with the destruction of the world order as America slips into the designated background position required for Torgus Stempi (Putin) and Dago (Kim jung) to rule unhindered.
     
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    And here is an update on the Eve vs Lilith
    conflict that I am sure is much more relevant to world events
    than we guys would perhaps like to imagine!


    http://www.sacred-texts.com/bos/bos244.htm

    Anonymous:
     
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    Wow!!!!!!

    An incredibly powerful interview!

    I am of the belief that the primary speaker and his wife have done the best job that
    they possibly could to truthfully speak about what they went through.

    Satanic ritual abuse...... in my opinion......
    does happen.......
    and from what I have read of near death experience accounts and related
    research over these last 27 years...... I have came to believe that
    the victims of this horrible abuse..... .can be compared with the
    six million Jews who died in the holocaust.............
    but G-d had a plan to raise them up and up and up and up
    after their deaths.


    Howard Storm Ph. D:
    If you do a search for this title:
    "Satanism Ending"
    you will find a somewhat similar account.... that
    puts forward an unusual theory that I take rather seriously.
    On another forum a similar message was posted:
    This does fit amazing well with a near death experience account from the 18th century:


    https://www.near-death.com/religion...ury-nde-the-case-of-george-de-benneville.html

    The Near-Death Experience of George de Benneville
    .....
     
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    At least I do know that I personally am just as capable of falling.......
    as Covering Cherub Lucifer once fell...................

    I could be wrong.....
    I often am.....
    but I believe that one of the reasons why Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan was so tough on all the angels around him..............
    was to prepare them to become the most dedicated.... the most humble... .the most enthusiastic.... supporters and followers of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus who have ever lived.............

    Former Satanists who repent with their whole heart.......
    can become Christian....... or Noahide.... or Jewish or whatever religion they choose to become..........
    Warriors of the Rainbow as seen by Eyes of Fire:


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/warriors-of-the-rainbow-by-eyes-of-fire.422403/

    Warriors of the Rainbow by Eyes of Fire.
     
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    At the very bottom of this page you will read........

    Brokenness

    http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tc-en.html

    Pastor Rick Joyner, The Call.......
     
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    I'm not capable, I am working from an unworthy state, but with a chance to be worthy only by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ and my own hard work and determination, with forgiveness for my failings and the grace I need to be worth.

    While it is said they are fallen, they had a choice with full knowledge of what would come of them depending on what they chose. They were not created evil.

    I am often wrong, too. I rely on forgiveness and grace. It's all I can do, since my works and faith are not nearly worthy of the rewards. Though Satan is sometimes used by God, he does have his own will and follows that will for his own purposes within the laws set forth by his Creator. God does allow certain things to happen, according to His own will. I do not question God's will, power, or authority and neither does Satan. God's purposes and Satan's are not the same.

     
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    It seems kind of funny......
    how on August 8, 1975 a demon threatened to kill Bob Jones for preaching against abortion.........
    Bob Jones refused to stop preaching and.... sure enough......
    he was killed ..........
    but his near death experience turned him into one of the most insightful and wise
    Christians who I personally have ever heard speak!

    Was the Satan who killed Bob Jones......
    setting him up to play out a massive role for the G-d of Abraham in these Latter Days.....????

    The demon threatening Bob Jones is at the 2:47 second mark of this video.....




    I have read that the Prophet Balaam was the father of Janes and Jambres who were the magicians of Egypt who opposed Moses.....


    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/num/23/1/s_140001

    Numbers 23:10 "Who can count the dust of Jacob, and the number of the fourth part of Israel? Let me die the death of the righteous, and let my last end be like his!"
     
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    I only remember the story of Job where Satan told God that Job would fall if God didn't protect him. I hope I got that right. God protected Job's life, but allowed Satan to do other things to Job. Job lost all, but became more blessed with grace than before.

    If it happened once, it could happen again. Proving it is the tough part.
     
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    Well said.........
    and just to back up your statement I should copy and paste an utterly brilliant reply that I just got over in another forum:

    Satanic Church

    Here is the truly brilliant reply that I got:

     
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    Shalom ShamashUruk.......
    Wow..... a phenomenal answer indeed to my questions.........
    you are obviously absolutely correct that the abuse that Mr. John Ramirez
    suffered as a child affected the way that he would come to understand
    his previous religion.......
    which he..... I think accurately.... considers to be a branch of Satanism.


    Would you be interested in altering the future in many, many, many positive ways......
    even for high level fallen angels?

    Some of the highest level fallen Watchers mistakenly got into the error of thinking
    that their disobedience to the Ancient of Days the Father, to the Holy Spirit, (who I associate with G-d the Mother),
    and to the Elohim (that I associate with the Seven Spirits of G-d, seven male and seven female, one of whom
    incarnates into each and every human being who is conceived).... could NOT be forgiven..........

    I believe that this is incorrect.........
    It is obvious that you are working with fifty if not a hundred more IQ points than I am........
    so if you happen to like my theory it is obvious that you could write a series of books on how to
    apply this idea to alter the future in astonishingly positive ways...........

    I wrote this a while ago......
    but simply copy and pasting this for you is the fastest way to bring you up to speed on what I have in mind for you.......

    In a sentence.... I believe that the Jewish and Christian scriptures hint at an ODESSA PLAN for fallen angels......
    and if you personally can figure out how to take the basic idea up to the next level.........
    then you could either get into a awful lot of trouble with high level fallen angels.......
    or become a heroic figure to them?!

    The greatest benefits.....
    tend to be derived after great risks are taken!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...d-and-divide-the-kingdom-of-satan-and.369227/

    Does a major fallen angel return to G-d and divide the kingdom of Satan and...

    cause it to fall?

    "but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza'zel shall be presented alive before the LORD to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Aza'zel."(Leviticus 16:10 RSV)

    In a nutshell I have came to strongly suspect that Azazel is the fallen angel who will be somewhat like General Abner who brought the ten tribes over to King David or to Rav Shaul/Paul who repented of persecuting Christians and followers of God.

    I suspect that when the fallen angel Azazel returns to the God of Abraham with his whole heart...when Yom Kippur is completely fulfilled....then a major step will have been taken toward the ushering in of a truly new era of worldwide peace where even the eating habits of wild animals like lions will be altered!

    "And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?"
    (Matthew 12)
     
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    http://reluctant-messenger.com/book_of_enoch.htm
    [Chapter 13]
    I have decided to rename.... Lucifer... as Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan......
    I have renamed Azazel as Abner Paul Azazel Baalzebub......
    and Lilith..... is certainly....... Mary Magdalene Gomer Delilah Jezebel Lilith........
    and after seeing the Disney film.... Malificent.... it seems that Lilith is getting tired of the dark realm......
    ....(post #61 at the top of this page may be quite intriguing to you).....

    The revolt of the fallen angels will probably eventually be proven to have many similarities to the Milgram Experiment.......
    and I believe that in spite of his flaws......
    Mr. John Ramirez is one of the most respected men on earth.... among fallen angels...... due to his courage to leave Satanism at this
    exceptionally auspicious time.... when he can play an important role in a modern Yom Kippur / Odessa Plan.....

    Actually..... the white stone.....

    Revelation 2:17

    "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it."

    ... could well be a technological device that allows each of us to view..... all of our past incarnations..... all over the universe / multiverse.... and yes.... on this earth........

    all of the colours of the spectrum when combined..... produce white....



    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...nation-was-edited-out-of-christianity.370322/

    Why reincarnation was edited out of Christianity?
     
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    Yes...... to at least some degree..... Satan might be like one of those really difficult to please Hollywood film producers...... who do make interesting films........ Satan might have felt that Peter would be a better person after he got sifted like wheat??????

    Luke 22:31

    "And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:"

    When we fall..... it sets us up to attain a much higher level of thinking that prepares us to reach out to a whole new group of people due to our now having a greater level of empathy and compassion.

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Nachman_of_Breslov

    "When a person falls from his level he should know that it’s heaven-sent, because going down is needed in order to go up, therefore he fell, in order that he arouses himself more to come close to Hashem. Advice for him - Begin anew to enter into service of Hashem as if you have never yet even begun" (Ibid)
     
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    Please include in your poll this option: "Demons, like Harry Potter, are not real."

    Thanks.
     
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    Actually.... after we die and leave this four dimensional space - time continuum.....
    it does seem that an astonishing range of choices are available to us..........

    Apparently the gifted prophet Balaam had two sons named Janes and Jambres who were the magicians who opposed Moses....... in the book Exodus....
    they had some abilities that rivaled the theatrical Harry Potter.......
    In whatever realm they are in now...... they could have developed pretty
    serious capabilities.....


    https://www.near-death.com/science/research/void.html

    The Void and the Near-Death Experience


    https://www.near-death.com/science/research/afterlife-realms.html
    Just for the record I am hoping that Balaam and both of his sons repented.... and turned to the G-d of Moses............ much as Mr. John Ramirez has done.
     
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    If they are like HARRY POTTER then they are not real.....see Harry is not actually real, Hogwarts is cool and all, but it's not actually real. The reason you believe the Bible and not Harry Potter is because the Bible promises that you can survive your own death, and Harry doesn't. Your thanatophobia is causing you to believe that the Bible is more real than Harry is, pure and simple.
     
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    Cool new word for me.... I had to Google it.......
    thank you.....

    For the record.... reading hundreds of near death experience accounts has significantly reduced my fear of death.

    I actually have never watched all of even one of the Harry Potter movies........ not yet anyway. I've been too busy with these forums.......
     
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    Well, my calvinist friend told me I'm pretty much toast and the he was chosen and I'm not. So I dunno.
     
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