Palestinian Sheikh : We Need a Caliph with His Finger on a Nuclear Button, Like Kim Jong-un

Well, in this case they say "crazy sht" because they were reported by trashy memri, yet another hysterical zionist news outlet.

Why would Palestine having nukes sound so outlandish? Any nuclear-equipped nation that would border Israel would bring much-needed stability in the area. I don't see why Arabs with nukes are more dangerous than Jews, North Koreans or Americans with nukes. IMO what bothers you is that once they have the bomb, they wouldn't be pushed around like they are.

In fact, the US is the one nuclear nation that worries me the most, as it was implied in every atomic scare we had since the end of WWII. I support at least one Levant muslim nation to have nukes - Egypt, Liban, Iran, anyone, so the area will finally know peace - against the wishes of zionists, wahabists and yankee short-sighted capitalists.

 

No more wars. That's what happening.

 

Amazing how the nuclear deterrent can focus the mind!

 

Indeed that is why they do not want anyone else to have nukes because then they could not push everyone else around and take what they want.

 

Begin apparently told the UN that the peace of the entire world would be in danger if the Zionists were not given Palestine in its entirety.

Irgun anti-Partition broadside

and maybe that has been shown to be so. They will not stop till they have all the land they want.

We need to remember Zionists did not only commit terrorism in Palestine, they also committed terrorism in Europe. We also need to remember that a lot of those who were killed in terrorism attacks in Palestine by the Zionists were Jews. Jews who were working for the Police or who in some other way worked against what the Zionists wanted.

 

The responses to my (rhetorical) post have been most instructive with respect to understanding the viewpoints of various members of this forum.

"Those who fail to learn from history..................."

 

Them two have been on the brink for decades and as even broken out a time or two. They are constantly sniping at each other over the Kashmir. (home of the best hashish in the world)

 

Yeah great idea, if armageddon is the goal.

 

"Armageddon" has been the Palestinians' lot since the end of WWII.

You bet it is. The Kargil war is a good exemple: have it been between two regular nations, the situation would have been allowed to deteriorate or worse, one party would be abusing the other. But thank god, these had nukes, so the USA took the lead and imposed peace the civilised way.

Nukes prevent these two nations from promoting "push" to "shove". They are the real world's Gort.

 

Huh? thanks for that flight of fantasy.

 

JIHAD this weekend, bring your friends.

No Shia, please.

 

Which explains why there are 7 or so times the number of them in existence since then.

America didn't "impose" peace they brokered it. BIG DIFFERENCE even if lost on so many.

MAD is a deterrent to all out war. We have only had one war with nukes in the past 70+ years because of it. Its not conflict between two nuclear powers that is the issue. If one two bit nation had them and their adversaries didn't, the issue comes to the fore. Especially when in the hands of truly religious and other ideological whacko autocrats.

 

You don't remember? Clinton gave nukes to the Pakistanis. Being a Democrat is all about "fairness". And Clinton thought it was unfair for India to have nukes when Pakistan did not. So he made that conflict more fair.

 

Hamas has not abandoned its goal of destroying Israel. Even if they were willing to accept the deal the Palestinians rejected in 1948 it is too late for that. After waging, and losing, three wars against Israel, plus countless terrorist attacks, they think that original deal is still on the table? Not bloody likely.

 

When the Palestinians saw a problem with the number of Jews coming into the area they reacted with violence, which is understandable, but it was also a huge mistake.

 

What has prevented a two-state solution the insistence by the Palestinians who were driven out/fled, or their descendants, upon the 'right of return'. It's not a realistic goal, but it's an understandable one. Since the current Israeli government has made even realistic goals, like a two-state solution, impossible, the perhaps the Palestinians feel they might as well pursue unrealistic goals. A tragedy, and perhaps at some point in the future, when Iran gets nuclear weapons, a monumental and catatrophic tragedy ... but why should the US be involved?

And yes, when two contending states have nuclear weapons, it makes them less likely to go to war, but it makes the consequences of going to war if they do much worse. If their possession were an absolute guarantee against war, we should be handing them out to everyone.

The 1999 Kargil war was not started by Pakistan's legitimate leaders, but by elements within the Pakistani military, who were alarmed at the rapprochement developing between Pakistan and India at that time.

If our leaders were coolly rational, we wouldn't have had any wars since 1898. Sadly, they're not. The Germans at the beginning of the century had the misfortune to be led by a German Donald Trump; the Russians, by a simpleton. Had the Germans been led by a Bismarck, and the Russians by an Alexander the Second, there would have been no World War I. The Japanese were mad to attack the US, but their Army (as opposed to their Navy) had little knowledge of the world outside their own limited sphere, and had had only victories in China. Both the German and Japanese leadership assumed the Americans would not throw themselves into the war. The Argentine junta thought the British would let them seize the Falklands. George Bush and his advisors thought the Iraqis would welcome us as liberators.

Lots of scope for mistakes. Stock up on iodine pills.

 

WHAT?
I guess history is what you want it to be. Sad.

 

Yes, it's true.

 

Your insistence doesnot make it so. CAn you back up your claim with whatchamacallits? Oh yeah facts.

 

Seems basically sound in principle. MAD between Isreal and Palestine,
Military parity. That is the basic model for peace suggested by Sun Tzu and I feel history supports his observations of human nature in this.

Maybe the world will get lucky and they will annihilate each other. Who knows?

 

I believe it was Harold McMillan, reminiscing many years later, who recalled that as a young man he was walking home from having stayed late at his club in London with a friend, when they saw the news in an early-morning edition of The Times about an assassination in Sarajevo. "That, at any rate, is something we won't have to be concerned with," he remembers saying.

 

Push it just a little more, and the Israelis will end up protectors of the Palestinian people.

I still don't see why a nuke in Muslim hands would be more dangerous than one in Jewish/American/NK hands. I think you don't understand what the goal of having nukes is; It's to prevent thing like the Iraq invasion and Palestine.

 

FYI they are for those in the territories. or did you miss the belligerent military occupation

Then you don't understand the effects of a nexus between religion and power. History can inform you.

 

Likewise, Hitler would claim credit for Israel's "success".

What history taught me, is that Israel uses religion in its handling of power. They used it to justify Israeli apartheid, they used it to create Hamas, and they used it to to destabilize Assad, among others. And yet, no atomic war as of yet.

Both me and history disagree with you. Maybe it would help if Israel and the Sauds and the US weren't after every secular regime in the ME.

A country like Iran having the Bomb will bring stability in the ME, no matter how it is against US and zionist aims.

 

Let's just not since this is from a known fake news site.
Just look it up on wikipedia that they just deliberately misstranslate things.