Solution to Abortion Problem

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by HereWeGoAgain, Jan 30, 2018.

  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    NO, your opinion doesn't make it as simple as that....

    Sorry to see you don't believe in self defense and would stand helplessly as an assailant tried to Injure or kill you......or do you believe you have MORE rights than women?


    Please see post # 176 put you in your place :)





    So you LIKE the idea of women's sexual freedom being restricted? WHY?
     
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  2. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    I've never maintained I had an absolute right to own a firearm (my enthusiasm for the whole 2nd Amendment is limited at best) or to freedom of expression.
     
  3. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Too bad you don't have a "Facts" sound effect...:roflol:
     
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    What.....WTF ?
     
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    :) Good way to avoid, dance around, never address, the issue being discussed...


    Here's the UNcherry picked rest of his post :)

    """"No rights are "absolute".

    You don't have an "absolute right" to own a firearm or to vote or freedom of expression.

    The Law of the Land stipulates that a woman's right to her own body covers her reproductive rights throughout pregnancy since her right to life supercedes that of the fetus.

    You have utterly failed to make a legitimate case as to why the Law of the Land should be altered in this instance."""""
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  6. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    I've also long advocated offering free prenatal care to all pregnant women in the United States.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Nope its 100% true, and you cant deal with reality
     
  8. FoxHastings

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    OH wow, and how is that working out ?

    Anti-Choicers want to shut down clinics that give affordable pre natal care.....so I guess you have a tough fight ahead as Anti-Choicers spread their hatred of women...
     
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    Just because pro life people aren't all with me on this position yet doesn't change the fact that I'm for it.

    You love to ask questions try answering a couple:

    1) Why do you claim what you call "anti-choicers" hate women? And why is simple temporary denial of a right a sign of "hatred".

    2) Assuming that his true, why do you think they "hate women"?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps "Disrespect" is more accurate than "Hate"....but I am sure you are well aware how effective hyperbole can be.
     
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    Nice wiggle but you said you "advocated " for it, that would imply some form of action and not just an opinion.

    And it does NOT change the FACT: ""Anti-Choicers want to shut down clinics that give affordable pre natal care.....so I guess you have a tough fight ahead as Anti-Choicers spread their hatred of women...

    Because they want to punish them for having consensual sex......they want to control women as if they were cattle, they want to shut down clinics that AID women.....

    You can deny it's "hate" but the results are the same as if they hated women.

    Many 19th century slave owners probably didn't hate their slaves but it sure didn't make any difference to the slave.








    OK, let's "temporarily " deny your right to your own body and force you to give up your heart/liver/kidneys to someone more deserving, someone who has more rights and has them all the time???????






    Because having a need to control and punish women for having sex is a form of hatred.......the result is the same for women (those people you think should have less rights than anyone else.)



    BTW, maybe YOU should try answering questions instead of avoiding them...;)
     
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    The rabid ideologues in the religious right, the principal spikes on the wheel ever grinding against Roe v. Wade have to open their eyes.

    They. Have. Been. Had.

    Why?

    5 out of the last 7 administrations have been republican. Not one serious attempt was ever made at undoing Roe the entire time.

    They are promising you lemonades from the lemons of your odious faith and laughing their way to early retirement after never delivering for you.

    No conservative admin will ever outlaw abortion, because if they do this country will swing violently to the left and may -never- return to the right.

    You lot are so easily fooled - evidenced by your "Faith" in the first place, and your misguided belief in Trump otherwise.

    What a joke.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The very first woman that dies from self induced abortion after overturn of RvW will force so many lawsuits and so much backlash the Republican party and name will be completely destroyed.
     
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    How about also free contraceptive advice
     
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    Sadly it will take that death

    Even sadder it will have to be a well to do or high profile woman
     
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    God doesn’t want those “ babies”?
     
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    But is still not human any more than an egg is a chicken
     
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    BZZZT Wrong!

    The fertilized egg contains BOTH SETS of DNA from the parents and therefore is NOT a "potential human life".

    It is only AFTER the DNA splits and recombines that yoj get a unique set of DNA that MIGHT become a human life.

    However if there is any DNA problem in the fetus it could still spontaneously abort.

    A fertilized egg does NOT equate to a "human life".
     
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    So what happens to all those fertilised eggs that god has said should not implant?
     
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    I like where this is going.

    Not a ban though. Body autonomy is important precedent.

    But if we provide the proper incentives to abortion alternatives like adoption (and test-tube babies i guess) we could drastically reduce abortion without banning anything.
     
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    Wrong on BOTH counts.
     
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    You could effectively reduce abortions by 40% just by making LARC's free to all at risk women under 25.

    That technology already exists and is proven to be way more effective than any other contraceptives.

    How much are the anti women's rightists willing to pay to reduce abortion?

    If they say that they are not willing to pony up then they expose themselves as selfish hypocrites.
     
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    So is a gnat; an amoeba, a bacteria.

    A fertilized egg is akin to an amoeba. Religion makes a completely irrational leap of faith that this is somehow a human life. But there is no arguing with faith.

    This is all about the imaginary soul that enters a fertilized egg.
     
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    Read the bible and you will find out.

    Well you'd be one of the first I'd ask, if I wanted to know.
    :rolleyes:
     
  25. Dayton3

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    Sure. Why not.
     
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