End times may begin this year ?

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    The point is, you tried to say mankind has gotten worse, you made it up and have been called out on it a few times.

    It is no worse, and has got better.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    I get it now, they see trump as the anti-christ.

    Well they be wrong, for the antichrist is suppose to claim to be christ, not just an anti every thing human.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We don't need to experience something in order to understand what it was must have been like - our imaginations can do that. In the case of global jihad, nobody has said humankind won't survive, just that having to live under Sharia law and the punishments it hands out to those who don't 'follow the rules', and adhere to the radical form of the Islamic doctrines, our lives won't be worth living?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well that's your perception, but it sure ain't mine. Things (social mores) in my neck of the woods are going downhill, and they're going downhill fast.
     
  5. FoxHastings

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    But we DO need to have knowledge of history before we clamor about the good old days....





    But my point is, """""stupidity, sexual perversions, hedonism, irrational greed and blatant corruption, depravity, and base vulgarity" ?"" ....have ALWAYS been there and people who think that there were "good old days" where that didn't exist need a Big History lesson.

    THAT is and was my point........which you haven't refuted and can't because it's true....all those thing have been around since humans have been around.
     
  6. dairyair

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    Downhill is subjective.
    Your grandkids will think it the norm.
    Goes back to my earlier statement. Most all old folks think the world has gone done hill. They've been thinking that way for a very very long time.

    And in fact, due to better education, better medicine, better technology, and more people are now accepted, instead of beaten up or killed, it is far better than your days as a youth or your parents and grandparents days.
     
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    And the US with it's military, but I guess you covered that above.
     
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    Except for the economic situation for our poor and working classes.
     
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    Yeah, but where does it all end? Marring goats, screwing grandkids, lying left and right, listening farts as music? Where is the bottom?
     
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    Your slippery slope is pitiful. And your list is only in the mind of you. Why not try some reality for a change? It does show a sick mind.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many Catholics would disagree. (it's often described as the "antechamber of heaven")
     
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    Never heard of that. But I've never be RC.
     
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    Why do you think marrying goats and screwing grandchildren and lying were invented in the 21st century?

    Enlighten yourself, read a history book,....humans have been doing bad things since they appeared on earth....

    I remember some in my parent's generation thinking rock and roll was EVIL! , the end of civilization !!!!!

    Their parents generation made illegal hootch, danced wicked wild dances, sold prostitutes and children and did drugs ...and all the other things that had been going on since time began..

    Bad things happen in every generation since the first generation...there were no "Good ol' Days"....we just have better media coverage now and there's more people to make the news.
     
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    The tribulation of the Jews in 70 CE was within one generation of when Jesus said it would happen. The temple was destroyed by Titus. It doesn't get any clearer than that.

    Jesus didn't return, well, because the Laws of Physics don't permit such things.
     
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    It depends how you interpret "this generation". It could have meant "once you start seeing all these things happening, then the end will come within a generation".
     
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    what the hell is 'end times'?
     
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    Yes, I'm perfectly aware it was your point, but it was the futility of making it that I question: it's almost as meaningless as telling someone whose house has just burned down to the ground 'Hey, think yourself lucky it was insured.' Oh, and compared to these days of extreme bureaucratic stupidity, the psychopathic institutionalised maltreatment of the most vulnerable groups in society, and the omnipresent awareness of urban warfare, there was a golden age; I certainly don't remember having to contemplate all of that in years past, do you? So I do 'refute' your stance, not because it's true, but because it is so irrelevant.
     
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    Well that's the thing you see - I want them to be free, and not under the yoke of Sharia law and Islamic doctrines.

    You seem to be more interested in 'old folks' than contemplating the undeniable facts.

    I've already acknowledged the progress of medicine and the sciences - not that I can see what it has to do with the fact that mankind in slowly but surely going insane.
     
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    Well I'm glad FoxHastings knows what you mean, because I sure don't.
     
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    Why would anyone think it's bad to have better medicine and it's medical technology? I don't know anyone who doesn't like that. Better education is subjective. I don't know any gey that was beaten up or killed. Folks stayed away from them. Others were their friends. Those same choices aren't available.

    Other technologies like smart phones and the internet track everything you say and do. That isn't better, if you believe in liberty. If you don't understand what I mean, you haven't been educated well in those better classes.

    So, in my parents and grandparents day, folks went around in gangs looking for geys to beat up and kill? Talk about spreading fear and loathing of anyone different from you! Thanks for disparaging my parents and grandparents with labels and stereotypes which aren't true.

    Yeah, things have changed. You are doing what you hated being done to you. You are worse than those you talk about.


    In actuality, I've had many instances of thinking I might be beaten up and lost sleep over them. Did I think I might be killed? Sure did. A few times I had a gun pulled on me and I had no weapon. A few times I saw guys gang up on one person like antifa does.

    I don't think it is better. Spreading hateful opinions won't help.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    But we DO need to have knowledge of history before we clamor about the good old days....



    But my point is, """""stupidity, sexual perversions, hedonism, irrational greed and blatant corruption, depravity, and base vulgarity" ?"" ....have ALWAYS been there and people who think that there were "good old days" where that didn't exist need a Big History lesson.

    THAT is and was my point........which you haven't refuted and can't because it's true....all those thing have been around since humans have been around.






    It isn't irrelevant.....it 's an ignorant statement to insist that ,because one is totally unaware of the world's history or chooses to ignore it , that there were times when all humans were decent to each other , a "Good Old Days"...

    Some parts were good, some parts were bad and they were all going on at once...
    YOU personally may have lead a charmed life "back in the day" but that doesn't mean everyone did....see, there are more people on earth than you , you are not the only person and YOUR personal experience does NOT define an era or even 3 seconds of human history.
     
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    That's a phrase that nut jobs have used for centuries...:) It's always been "end times" for someone who needs attention or wants the world to end..
     
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    And they were right, weren't they?
    Social decay doesn't happen overnight, it takes decades and centuries to unfold.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    I remember some in my parent's generation thinking rock and roll was EVIL! , the end of civilization !!!!!




    Hilarious! You really think Rock and Roll destroyed the world !!!!!
     
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