EU Hits Back at Trump Tariffs

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  1. APACHERAT

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    That's what exactly happened.

    For Russia to bring down the "Wall" and allow the reunification of the two Germany's and allowing the former East Germany to be integrated into NATO and for Russia to end it's 47 year military occupation of Eastern Europe and bring their troops home the promise made was that NATO wouldn't expand beyond NATO's 1992 borders and NATO troops would never be deployed on the soil of any country that bordered Russia.

    It was President Clinton who broke that promise.

    Earlier today I was watching the "Discovery Channel" and the program was about nuclear weapons, the Cold War and todays relationship with Russia. They had Clinton's former Secretary of Defense, William Perry chime in on America's current relationship with Russia. He said one of the biggest mistakes Clinton made as President was expanding NATO and that's why we are at where we are today...another cold war.
     
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    No problem. What they manufacture here, they may sell tariff free, because we are real givers that way!

    BMW sells about $9B/yr here in exports. A 33% tariff would bring in about $3B, you'd hardly miss it.
     
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    Yeah, actually there is. That's why he calls it a national security risk.
    Dumb as that is. Canada may invade any moment.
     
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    There really is no point in NATO including countries that fail to meet their two percent spending obligation.
     
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    Canada has negotiated an exception, Silly!
     
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    A 33% tariff would stop all of them. Try 10%.
    It's a merry go round. The EU imports 11.8 billion from the US.
    Of course those may get priced out of their market because of the cost increase from the steel tariffs.
     
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    "Shirley" you noticed that was part of his flip flop and not included in his original statement about the security risk. Would you like him to withdraw that one as well?
     
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    Or maybe they can shut their yaps on the Steel/Aluminum Tariffs.
     
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    The Purpose of NATO was always to kill commies.

    The USSR/Russia always looked at the purpose of NATO was to kill Russians.

    I still remember the day when President G.H. Bush announced that he has just ordered SAC to stand down and for the first time in forty years I went to bed and saying to myself, this is really strange, there isn't an entire B-52 bomber wing in the air flying towards the USSR.

    During the Cold War SAC always had an entire B-52 bomber wing in the air 24/7.

    The vast majority of Americans were saying...finally after 47 years we can finally bring our troops home from Europe.

    Many Americans were asking what's the purpose of NATO now ?

    Most Americans were expecting that America would pull out of NATO and Europe can do what ever they wanted with NATO.
     
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    No. He's always willing to make a good deal.

    Canada and Mexico given temporary carve-out while Nafta talks continue.

    Trump graciously created a process for the exclusion of certain products and for countries with a close security relationship with the US to seek exemptions. The president’s move fulfills a campaign promise to protect the US steel industry and bring back jobs to many of the blighted Rust Belt communities: “Our industries have been targeted for years and years by unfair foreign practices,” Mr Trump said on Thursday, citing “the decimation of entire communities” and declaring “that’s going to stop”.
     
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    So you think that Union boss you see on TV makes less than the little Chinese guy making steel?
    You think that 65 year old plant that has been sitting empty will restart with higher profit than the new one built in China. Give it up. Pick on something new we have done and protect that.
    Oh wait we got out of TPP so we can't really protect our intellectual property rights over there.
     
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    Hillary came out against TPP, too. Looks like you were the only one for it!
     
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    Do you see NATO fighting in any wars that weren't US wars?
     
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    Hillary would have "fixed" it by now. She would have used the time Trump uses playing golf instead of working.
     
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    She probably would have spent the time trying to fix her GPS that was unable to locate WI during the campaign.
     
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    That's all he gave them was hope. The same hope he gave the coal miners. What he really gave them was the shaft.
     
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    You can't solve s**t with tariffs and this thread proves it.
     
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    I'm gonna miss those Harleys.
     
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    That chart is meaningless unless you point out what they get for those taxes.
     
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    Forget about Trump. He hasn't a clue.
    The congress critters will run from a trade war like a greyhound chasing a rabbit.
     
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    The number is 5.7% and growing, 9.1% of all newborns in Germany had Muslim parents. Get used to it.

    Could you be more wrong? Afghanistan's murder rate is 6.55 per 100,000, the U.S. is 4.88. You have proven you haven't a clue what your talking about. You should research some before sticking your foot in your mouth.
     
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    I read about your country all the time.

    This doesn't happen in the U.S. What's wrong with the German Police? They appear to be afraid.
     
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    Since 2011 Germany has had 8 Islamic terror attacks, I guess German police was unable to stop this?
     
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    They'll get the beat down............

    How many and how much would they have to tariff iPhones to match 35% on 1.33 million high end big dollar cars?
     

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