Why do you believe in God ?

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  1. BillRM

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    Funny they did as they was told indeed.......sorry a very very large percent of the German people who happen to be Christians at the time agree with Hitler.


     
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    A reformed sect seems to agree with you. Sort of like the Born Again Christian sect.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And it was not due to Hitler but a longstanding political view about Jews. It was not based on religion but banking and money. Same thing Democrats of today hate so much. Bankers and rich people.
     
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    So you are claiming that they was not two of our founding fathers and that their opinions and writings had no impact on the form of our government?????
     
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    Come on most Jews at the time was not all that wealthy and like all the other pogroms of Jews in history the fact that they was able to be label Jesus killers mean that they could be used as targets for people like Hitler.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I missed that museum in DC. But I already was well aware of Hitler's atrocities too. Are you aware of the Atheists atrocities vs the Jews. Seldom mentioned here in the USA is the wholesale murder of Jews done by the Soviets. Matter of fact, it was Jews trying to escape the Soviet union that penetrated the Iron Curtain.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Negative.

    I made a clear comment. Not that at all. I departed the Democrat party in part due to Paine's writings. Democrats and Paine are not on the same page. Were a Jefferson here today, probably would be Republican.
     
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    This country has long had the same myth that Jews are all wealthy. But Hitler wrote down his views and I am only reporting what he stated. I never read that Hitler worried about Jesus. Best I can find out is he kind of was an Atheist.

    I see this as Hitler the Atheist killed the Jews.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you defend religion? You defend Muslims and Jews.
     
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    I defend Christians too..I defend all religions as long as they don’t try to impose their beliefs on me
     
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    Why are you zeroing in on just Hitler. Are you justifying why the Christians all went along with the slaughtering of 6 million? There are many pictures of Hitler leaving church but I think a lot of people prefer kicking him out of the Christian club because he wasn’t good after he killed himself
     
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    Sorry but pogroms of Jews was a very very popular sport in Russia long long before communism even existed.
     
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    We are not aware of Jews killed by Russia? Are you serious?
     
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    Nice try but Hitler did not personally kill six millions or so Jews a whole nation of mainly Christians repeat Christians either took part or turn their heads during the killings.
     
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    And I should just take your word for it, huh?
     
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    What possible connection does the Democrat party have with Paine writings one way or the other???

    Next the religion right of the GOP would hate repeat hate Jefferson.

    He dare to write his own version of the new testament cleaning out all the supernatural elements and turning Jesus a great teacher but just a man.
     
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    LOL both men writings are completely available on line so you can read their positions in their own words.

    In other word you do not need to take my word you can instead take their words instead.
     
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    ok? I didn't do that, so no idea why you posted this.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...believe-in-god.526555/page-11#post-1068794410
     
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    Any statement that disproves your alleged belief.

    The refuting g of your claims that doctors should be totally trusted while the have mal practice insurance for one. You totally ignore any evidence that you don't like. Extremely dishonest of you.
     
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    You believe everything posted on you tube? Now I feel sorry for your beliefs, as screwed up as they are.
     
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    Why call them Christians. Why not tell the truth that they were athiests pretending to be Christians. Or do you just like to use the term Christian in whatever context suits you....just so long as it makes Christianity look bad.
     
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    Love it that any Christian who actions you can not defend up to the Pope is a secret atheist.
     
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    I've already paraphrased Jeffersons DOI. They are his words and meanings.
     
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    I excuse no one. If not Godless, what would you call them?
     
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    Why do you believe in God ?

    You would have to define god. For me god is the laws of physics or the lack of chaos. These things are truly miraculous. I have no clue where they came from. These things are mysterious.
     

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