Finland’s story shows equality is the best route to happiness

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe you are just ill-informed.

    Shall we take a look at Brazil ?
     
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  2. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    You want to look at a developing country? Crikey, be serious.

    I also note that you didn't actually refer to any underclass evidence. You referred to another race orientated irrelevance. You clearly have an issue with race. Isn't that a shame?
     
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  3. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, we have to restrict our criteria to just the developed world. That eliminates two-thirds of the countries right off the bat.

    Mind giving me a little clue what some of these countries might be?
    Any that actually have taken in a large amount of immigration? (over the last 30 years)
     
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  4. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Developed countries have the data to robustly test underclass problems. You just whine about race.

    Why don't you be a little more honest?
     
  5. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why don't you be a little more intellectually honest with yourself?
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    I've been honest. Underclass problems are difficult to document. I asked you to present evidence. You referred to your own whine about race. Why do you keep bringing up race?
     
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    I guess the moral of the story is that if you are a country with a population slightly larger than Los Angeles, and a population that is more or less homogeneous, it's easy to get everyone to follow the plan and be happy.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't see a lot of small countries with a high standard of living in the equatorial part of the globe. Even the ones that are homogenous.

    However, that apparently doesn't translate over into perceived happiness. Happiness in Africa
     
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    Please present an argument for your observation. Please refer to economics.

    Any here's the question you ignored: Why do you keep bringing up race?
     
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    Isn't amazing that the happiest country on Earth is also the whitest. Just saying.
     
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    Europeans come from blacks. Just saying
     
  12. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, maybe 90 thousand years ago. A lot of evolution can happen during that time.

    And there is some contention on the out of Africa hypothesis; it's not a complete consensus among all anthropologists.
     
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    Are you going to answer my diddy question: Why do you keep bringing up race?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't bring it up. I just happened to give some links, which incidentally had to do with race, to support my social arguments.
     
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    So you didn't bring up race, despite your links referring to your comments about race? That's convincing!
     
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  16. kazenatsu

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    The first link was an example of horrible things that go on in the underclass that don't get well documented. It's easier not to document something if you don't want to look at it.

    It all goes back to your asinine comment about most countries not having a "documented underclass", Reiver.
     
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    Tut tut! I referred to developed countries. You didn't just refer to developing countries. You referred to your own thread that whined about race. Why can't you refer to something convincing?
     
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    cool idea so we'll just forget about North Korean Iranian Russian and Chinese nuclear missiles because we don't care if we get bombed or taken over like the French did by the Nazis. Maybe the French can save is like they did in WW2??. Most of the French must have enjoyed the Nazis bombing and taking over their country and wish USA hadn't
    freed them with our massive military!!
     
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    That inflated military too that the liberals inform with with notion of military industrial complex....
     
  20. LafayetteBis

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    They have assimilated per capita about as many muslim refugees as Germany - and nobody blinked in Finland. (Of course, they needed the manpower at the lower-levels of job-qualification.)

    I have worked with these people here in Europe. The Finns are indeed a very open-minded nation ...
     
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    Whatever works.

    What doesn't work is a country fixated on the accumulation of riches and that message is repeated daily and nightly on TV. As if it were like reporting the results of a sports-game.

    But, in that game, for every "winner" there are hundreds of thousands of "losers" ....
     
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    I don't know, from the statistics I'm looking at it's still a very homogenous country.
    96.4% of the population is either Finnish, Swedish, Russian, or Estonian.

    Although there are more Somalis now than there are Laplanders (native people endogenous to the Arctic North), which is unprecedented.
     
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    America can change.

    It just has to open up to Social Democracy as a universal ethic.

    That's the hard part in a nation fixated on the rich ...
     
  24. LafayetteBis

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    The northern European countries do not attract that many migrant people "normally". What has a happened in Syria is "abnormal". And perhaps the migrants have not yet made it into the official counts.

    Look at migrants in Spain, and you will see a great many muslims that have crossed the Med to get there. And this has been happening for a long, long, time. And they assimilate rather well into the Spanish population.

    (Of course, it may help that Spain was run by muslims for a couple of centuries ...)

    PS: The problem with America is that, in fact, you are nation that was built by millions upon millions of migrants. And now, all-of-a-sudden, 2nd and 3rd generation "Amerikuns" think a handful of whacko migrants want to kill them with machine-guns. Believe me, what is going on now is Americans killing Americans with machine-guns they buy at the supermarket!
     
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    I don't think that's true.
    They crossed over seven or eight different countries to get to Sweden.

    Obviously the "push" factor alone isn't enough to explain what's happening here.

    Sort of how like getting to France wasn't good enough and many migrants are trying to cross the tunnel at Calais to get to England.
     
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