Palestinian farmer killed by Israeli strike in Gaza

What do you mean, who?

 

Right. Instead of using the concrete they have to rebuild houses, they use it to build tunnels in order to get more concrete to build more tunnels to get more concrete. Oh, joy.

The truth however is, as always, biting terror apologists in the arse.

https://homes4gaza.org/

Well...the UN and Germany rebuilding Gaza homes and freeing in the process all that concrete for Hamas to build tunnels in order to bring more concrete to rebuild houses already built...my head is spinning...oh, my poor poor head!

Or are you saying that the tunnels are built without concrete?!?!?!? Wow...I smell a Nobel prize for Hamas...

Here are some of those houses:





Source: https://homes4gaza.org/#/FamilyProfiles?section=aa

All of the above without using tunnels, to boot.

So...why is Hamas building tunnels, again?

 

Islam.
This is what the Koran say.
Every Muslim must go for war for Alla.
Every one that die in that war goes to heaven.
You must not see a man who died in a war for alla as dead, but as someone who joined his maker and has great after life.

 

Yes, the killing of the unarmed is indeed heavy losses with no gain and that is pretty much the story of what has been happening to the Palestinians since they believed in Oslo. I trust you have seen the video of the Israeli snipers deciding to kill an unarmed Palestinian and whooping it up after they did. That one, surprisingly even ended up on the BBC though that particular one was apparently a few weeks ago.

What I do know is that the West which supports the killing of unarmed civilians by people who it is already supporting taking everything from - which is why they are prepared to risk their lives by protesting. It is not in my name 'The West' acts like this. And that is your answer as to why they are protesting even though they know that Israel will not allow Palestinians peaceful protest, even though it is on record that before this protest began the Israeli army actually said it did not have the patience to supervise non violent protest (note supervise somewhere where it claims it is not the occupier), where it is on record Israel said she would be responding with 'disproportionate violence' against the Palestinians causing causalities, they are prepared to give their lives in protest now that the American's have ripped up any commitment to any just peace and as Imperialists are determined to get Israel to colonise all of Palestine taking all their lives if need be in the name of Christianity.

The Palestinians have tried everything. On the West Bank their own people took over preventing them from any resistance while Israeli settlers took more and more of their land, destroyed their livelihoods and attacked them with the support of their army.

In Gaza they responded to attacks on their people by attacks on Israeli people, they responded to attacks on their land by futile attempts of attacks on Israeli land and now they have been put in a totally hopeless situation where the Dictator of the world is saying their homeland must be taken from them because that is what Christians in his country want.........and yes, they are, just like people on the salt marches prepared to let you gun them down, in the hope that somewhere in the world there is sufficient humanity left that it will speak up or at least keep a record till humanity returns to the world after this dark time. That also answers why it is asking those with a conscience in Israel to speak up about the killing of their journalists who are bringing this knowledge to the world.

 

Why don't they try one on one, face to face negotiations with Israel?

 

Obviously because Israel has always refused same. Indeed according to Alistair Crook the MI6 who was working successfully with Hamas prior to them being declared a 'terrorist' group, the very declaring of them as a Terrorist Group meant that negotiations with them would not be possible and as any final resolution of the two states solution could not be done without negotiating with Hamas, the declaration of Hamas as a terrorist group in reality shut the door on Oslo.

At the time he was called off working with Hamas, he believed he had made sufficient progress to assess that he would indeed be able to do the job he was sent to do and get Hamas ready for constructive negotiations.

 

Myth Alert !!
Abu Adolf Mazen won't sit face to face to negotiate with Israel because his Bedouin brothers will kill him..
He knows that and everyone knows it.
Hammas the dictators from Gaza .. well , they just want to erase Israel of the map.

 

Words are cheap.

Prove that Israel has tried to get Hamas to discuss the two state solution.

 

They have only tried the same thing over and over again and have always ended up losing. They are living the definition of insanity. Here's what they haven't tried:

Taking a break from hating Jews and working to better their lives. Teaching their children to hunger for education. Creating heroes like doctors and scientists that kids can look up to. No one wants that for the Palestinians because it would reduce their willingness to be used as pawns against Israel. There is not a single post from you about improving their lives.

They will continue to be their own worst enemy and will only look up to people like the one in your avatar who slapped a soldier! They do this to gain sympathy and when people like you give it to them, they continue doing it. You are part of the problem.

 

Darling it is you who is so stuffed with hate that you cannot even see what is going on. All you can do is bring up a broken record regardless of the situation.

Indeed a 16 year old Palestinian girl slapped and kicked a soldier who was illegally in her yard, having less than an hour ago, according to some reports this very soldier had shot her 14 year old cousin in the head with a rubber bullet with a steel insert. Clearly you will know nothing about this but many people get extremely upset when people they love are badly injured and they do not yet know whether they will survive. Apart from that her family has been protesting the removal of their land and water supply by Israelis who of course are trying to get everyone out of the village so that it can become an Israeli one and due to that engage in much harassment of the people. This is what Ahed has grown up with. Seeing people she loves killed by the Israelis. There is one thing Nabi Saleh are determined to do and that is not to let the Israelis 'colonise their mind'. They allow themselves in their mind to believe they are as free as you and me. They do not accept themselves as subservient people who must do what their colonisers demand. That is what Israelies could not accept about Ahed. She acted just the same as one would expect a teenage Westerner to act when her cousin had been ruthlessly shot and may be dying.

http://www.leftvoice.org/A-Childhood-in-Struggle-My-Encounters-with-Ahed-Tamimi

For that she has been put in jail for 8 months. There is an Israeli woman who unlike Ahed was not a child and had not just witnessed someone she loved being possibly terminally injured. She spent not one day in prison.

Your prejudice and inability to know what you are talking about is so obvious it is perverse. You may support Imperialism, I do not. You may support throwing people off the land they have been living in for hundreds of years and giving it to superior 'western' people, I do not. You may support the killing of peaceful protesters, I do not but at least try and find out something about what you are talking about.

Aheds parents were born after Israel took over their homeland. She is second generation. Her parents have past on to her what their parents did to them. They will not forget.

 

I am the only one talking about improving their lives. I would like to see a day where parents send their children to become better people instead of Pallywood images. I don't believe the dead were "peaceful protesters" and I don't blame Israel for their inability to evolve. Their course of action will forever prevent them from getting ahed in life. You have not said a single word about improving their lives.

 

No you have been gloating about them being killed and giving reasons to try to justify it which do not even have anything to do with what is going on.

There you go again bringing up your fantasies which have nothing to do with reality showing you live in a world of dreams where you have a hatred of Palestinians and know nothing about it. I will leave you to it.

 

If you see gloating and hatred in my posts, you do not have a level of emotional intelligence required to discuss this topic. Still not a single word from you about improving their lives. Bye!

 

Where does Doofenshmirtz expresses gloating or hatred for Palestinians, do point out?

 

THE CHARTER OF THE HAMAS

THE CHARTER OF ALLAH:

THE PLATFORM OF THE ISLAMIC RESISTANCE MOVEMENT (HAMAS)

In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate

You are the best community that has been raised up for mankind.

Ye enjoin right conduct and forbid indecency; and ye believe in Allah. And if the People of the Scripture had believed, it had been better for them. Some of them are believers; but most of them are evil-doers.

They will not harm you save a trifling hurt, and if they fight against you they will turn and flee. And afterward they will not be helped.

Ignominy shall be their portion wheresoever they are found save [where they grasp] a rope from Allah and a rope from man. They have incurred anger from their Lord, and wretchedness is laid upon them. That is because they used to disbelieve the revelations of Allah, and slew the Prophets wrongfully. That is because they were rebellious and used to transgress. Surat Al-Imran (III), verses 109-111

Israel will rise and will remain erect until Islam eliminates it as it had eliminated its predecessors.

The Islamic World is burning. It is incumbent upon each one of us to pour some water, little as it may be, with a view of extinguishing as much of the fire as he can, without awaiting action by the others.

INTRODUCTION

Grace to Allah, whose help we seek, whose forgiveness we beseech, whose guidance we implore and on whom we rely. We pray and bid peace upon the Messenger of Allah, his family, his companions, his followers and those who spread his message and followed his tradition; they will last as long as there exist Heaven and Earth.

O, people! In the midst of misadventure, from the depth of suffering, from the believing hearts and purified arms; aware of our duty and in response to the decree of Allah, we direct our call, we rally together and join each other. We educate in the path of Allah and we make our firm determination prevail so as to take its proper role in life, to overcome all difficulties and to cross all hurdles. Hence our permanent state of preparedness and our readiness to sacrifice our souls and dearest [possessions] in the path of Allah.

Thus, our nucleus has formed which chartered its way in the tempestuous ocean of creeds and hopes, desires and wishes, dangers and difficulties, setbacks and challenges, both internal and external.

When the thought matured, the seed grew and the plant took root in the land of reality, detached from temporary emotion and unwelcome haste, the Islamic Resistance Movement erupted in order to play its role in the path of its Lord. In so doing, it joined its hands with those of all Jihad fighters for the purpose of liberating Palestine. The souls of its Jihad fighters will encounter those of all Jihad fighters who have sacrificed their lives in the land of Palestine since it was conquered by the Companion of the Prophet, be Allah's prayer and peace upon him, and until this very day. This is the Charter of the Islamic Resistance (Hamas) which will reveal its face, unveil its identity, state its position, clarify its purpose, discuss its hopes, call for support to its cause and reinforcement, and for joining its ranks. For our struggle against the Jews is extremely wide-ranging and grave, so much so that it will need all the loyal efforts we can wield, to be followed by further steps and reinforced by successive battalions from the multifarious Arab and Islamic world, until the enemies are defeated and Allah's victory prevails. Thus we shall perceive them approaching in the horizon, and this will be known before long:

"Allah has decreed: Lo! I very shall conquer, I and my messenger, lo! Allah is strong, almighty.:"

 

Apparently, you haven't seen the video you're talking about yourself.

It's from December. The Israeli snipers didn't kill the man, he was shot in the leg. The whooping wasn't done by the snipers, but by the man behind the camera, who wasn't a sniper himself. The second terrorist (blue shirt) wasn't shot when he approached the fence because there was a child nearby.

Yeah, I know, you'll tell me that they were peaceful farmers working their land. Whatever. Even a peaceful farmer (how are soldiers guarding the border supposed to know if someone is a peaceful farmer?) is not allowed to come too close to a hot border, and the border between Gaza and Israel is indeed extremely hot. They know that, we know that, anyone with even one working brain cell should be able to understand that.

I'm more interested in your explanation regarding the seemingly odd behavior of the Arabs who ran toward the wounded, instead of lying low to avoid having more people hurt. Why would they offer a bigger and easier target to the enemy? Maybe because they know for a fact that Israeli soldiers only shoot at people when there's a real threat, not for fun?

This is what you know (may I gently remind you that until not so long ago everybody knew the world was flat). Let's see what you don't know.

Gaza has been a thriving cultural and commercial center of Jewish life in Palestine for the last two thousand years. The Jews of Gaza had to flee their homes in 1949, when Egypt seized the strip. How about three million Jews peacefully walking into Gaza to return to their ancestral homes? Would you support the right of the descendants of the Jewish refugees from Gaza to return to their forefathers' lands?

Next, if you're interested, we can talk about land and properties Jews had to abandon in the West Bank following the Jordanian invasion. The very vociferous Palestinian supporters at that shining example of how not to care about human rights pompously called "United Nations", have happily seized abandoned Jewish property in the West Bank through UNRWA. The Dehaysha refugee camp, for instance, has been built on Jewish owned land. Not to mention properties lost when Jews were forced out of Arab countries. But everyone and their parrots' fleas are asking Israel, and only Israel, to give back property seized from Arab refugees. Hell no. It's either everybody's right to get back seized property, or nobody's.

The truth, Alexa, is that Palestine has always had a Jewish population, living in places claimed today as pure Arab from time immemorial, like Hebron or Gaza. I'd like very much to know why do you, and other so-called pro-Palestinians, uncritically believe every bit of anti-Zionist propaganda, without bothering to check for yourselves.

 

Proof no.2 - ABBAS SAYS PALESTINIANS WON’T ACCEPT ANY AMERICAN PEACE PLAN
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...ns-wont-accept-any-American-peace-plan-549561

 

Two young men, 17 and 20, in Gaza have had to have their legs amputated as Israel refused to allow them permission to go to a hospital in the West Bank.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/2-inj...denied/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Of course if that guy has both legs amputated he will easily be spotted to be executed as was Ibrahimi Abu Thoria recently.

Many people who do not even take part in peaceful protests are dying because Israel refuses them to allow them through to get the medical treatment they require to live and of course because intensive care is basically impossible in Gaza given they only have about 3 hours of electricity a day.

 

Why don't you blame riots and rioters for that? When people try to storm your borders, it is prudent to double your guards and lock your borders... just in case.

 

Because there was no riots and rioters. There was Israel deliberately deciding she did not have the patience to supervise peaceful protest and deciding instead Israel would reply with disproportionate violence creating causalities. In order to facilitate this she set up 100 snipers and several brigades or something. No doubt they will have been shooting these men in their legs which is why they were requiring emergency medical help. Israel not seeing the Palestinians as human beings and trying to get them angry as she does not want them to continue this peaceful protest, refused this.

except that again you are not being honest. They are simply demonstrating to the world their desperation. There has never been any intent to cross the line or violence. The intent is there though to come to the fence which holds them in and demand their freedom. That is all. Peaceful protest, which Israel illegally refuses them the right of, and letting the world see.

Israel has her own problems right now.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...tion&utm_medium=web_push&utm_campaign=General

 

People who use an ambulance as a weapon should not expect trust when they are using it for legitimate reasons. They could have electricity 24/7 if it was a priority for them. There is no interest in improving their lives as doing so would reduce their willingness to be exploited by antisemites.

 

Even France accuses Israel of indiscriminate firing at civilians.
http://en.rfi.fr/20180408-france-condemns-israels-indiscriminate-fire-gaza/

There is no concrete there.

 

France can say whatever they want. There was no shortage of media and not one single shred of evidence that people were shot while peacefully protesting. I do believe it is likely that innocent demonstrators were killed, I do not believe it was from indiscriminate fire. The Pallywood playbook calls for launching attacks from crowds in the interest of drawing fire and causing casualties. Only then are the cameras capturing footage to be used to further exploitation of the Palestinian people.

 

Since Israel bans the import of concrete means, they need to build tunnels first in order to import enough to build houses.

 

You said you're not buying it that the Jews massacre people. And here we got France basically saying the Jews shoot who moves. And I mean... this is coming from a country that recognizes Israel and not Palestine. So there you go. It just is. And it's you who can think whatever,... your opinion is irrelevant vs France.