Russian navy ran from Syria

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure what point you're making. That there's a Russian majority was no excuse for Russia to annex the Crimea. The region belongs to the Ukraine. The future of Crimea is not Russia's call.

    I would isolate Russia by not trading with them until the give the Crimea back.
     
  2. LangleyMan

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    Not sure what you're saying. There's a balance-of-power that should be recognized, and where necessary, restored.
     
  3. LangleyMan

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    There are a lot of incredibly talented Americans and we all know, or know of, such people. I'm disappointed they weren't candidates.
     
  4. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Given the disrespectful way they're treated by the media, the public, and each other, it's not surprising that genuinely good and decent people can't be bothered with it..
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Does your board name give a clue to where you work? I mean the FBI is in Langley isn't it? If I'm right no wonder you get so many Likes from the shallow thinkers among us.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    DUH! I'm surprised you had to ask because every other member of PF knows - of course I am. :wall: (and he's an FBI agent too - I thought they were the creme de la creme of America's intelligentsia. Hope Poo'n doesn't forget to send my pay cheque for this month! :roflol: )
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now that I don't think, no way, no how is he stupid. If your looking for 'stupid' turn your gaze more westward to the US, UK, and la belle France, and you'll find it in spades.
     
  8. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I quite agree. The Crimea is not the only case of a large Russian population.

    See here: Russians in the Baltic States

    We are 150K Yanks who live in France. Should the US invade France ... ?
     
  9. LangleyMan

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    Good point.

    My pet peeve ... reporter in earshot shouting: "Mr. President, how come everyone says you're a crook selling out the country and you [blah, blah, blah]...?"

    I have this mental image of the reporters biting tires on the ambulance they're chasing.
     
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  10. LangleyMan

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    There are 1m Americans living in Canada... I'm trying to figure how I might count as a naturalized Canadian (born in U.S.) who lives part of the year in Canada.
     
  11. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    Canada is like the 51st state. :)
     
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  12. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's difficult for Europe to do in winter.

    Many people would freeze to death because Russia is a prime supplier of gas/oil supplies. Also the consumption for driving classic-engine cars.

    Of course, with electricity-based technology making advances in terms of latter case, Russia is going to start hurting in terms of total Demand for its primary export resource. Oil ...
     
  13. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Note that because of FATCA, as a US citizen, you will pay taxes anyway (on all amounts earned above $100K) if your reside more than six months outside the US.

    Thank you, Barack ... !
     
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  14. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Uh ... no.

    It has very low-cost National Healthcare System - very much unlike the US!

    But unfortunately its cost of Tertiary Education is even more expensive at Canadian state-schools than in the US. ($16K canadian vs $12K american dollars) ...

    Comparatively, the US is still in the dark-ages as regards Public Health Care ...
     
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  15. LangleyMan

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    Nope. I never lived in Virginia. The Langley refers to another Langley.
    The CIA is in Langley.
     
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    Of course it is arguable and just because it is and there is no proof of who has used chlorine gas as poison gas here ... and whether a storage was hit with chlorine gas bottles or whatever else is theoretically possible ... I seriously ask, where is the proof that it was Assad!

    And no, I certainly will not defend the bastard Assad, but I'll be damned annoyed if the IDIOTUS of Washington and other no less idiotic heads of state with zero proof then make such an idiotic and dangerous attack.

    The same applies to the former double agent and his daughter in England. Where is the proof? The proof so far is just the fact that it was poison and that it was developed in the USSR in the 1970's + idiotic constructs that it would benefit Russia, etc.
    The fact that at least 2 dozen countries today are able to produce the poison is concealed ... because if you can prove it, then you can make it, because you know the exact composition and the rest is base chemistry!
    And what profit has Russia so far out of it ... and that the guy lives since 8 years in England after 10 years of Russian jail before and suddenly it is supposedly important for Putin to assassinate him and then also with this poison? Come on ... this stinks all heavy!
     
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  17. LafayetteBis

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    IT IS YOU WHO IS IN DENIAL

    Debatable, me arse. What the hell proof do you need of those kids steeped in chlorine gas. Would you do that to YOUR KIDS just to get on the TV news? (Probably, now that I think of your mental capacity.)

    Assad had a chlorine gas "factory" just outside of Damascus. It is now rubble.

    The "experts" are now in the areas bombed with the chlorine gas, which stays around after usage for quite while. (The gas that both sides used in the first World War is still in the fields in northern France. The fields are not cultivatible due to the residue chlorine AND have not been cultivated in more than century.)

    People like you are either wholly misinformed and uninformed, because they think everybody and all news reports contrary to their predefined convictions are illicit and unacceptable.

    To which I say, "Wakey, wakey! You are living in a shadow-world devoid of reality ... !"
     
  18. LafayetteBis

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    For a Ruskie "fellow traveler" your English is pretty good. How much do they pay you?

    Who ELSE had an interest in painting a highly specific and murderously toxic chemical agent on Skripal's front door? Donald Dork, perhaps?

    And no, there are not dozens of labs in the world capable of creating the poison employed. You are hallucinating.

    As the Independent (newspaper) put it:
    What you fail to understand:
    *The means Russia had because it developed the novichok nerve agent and has a great deal of it in stock.
    *The motive was Putin's who wanted to show that anyone betraying Mother Russia would pay for it sooner or later. It was a dissuasive ploy, because Putin is scared shatless of leaks regarding his colossal fortune made in the public domain by "Russian insiders". This will almost certainly shut them up.
    *Moreover, this is not the first time that the novichok agent has been employed. It also was used to poison Ivan Kivelidi and Zara Ismailova in 1995. Read about that from Wikipedia here.

    Yeah, yeah, I can see your reply already. "Lies! All lies!"


    My suggestion to you: Get in touch with reality ... !
     
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    It is me who is in denial??? ROFL ... :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Did you get anything aside this BS oif half truths and facts told by your media and governemnt?

    Obviously you do not know that Assad was allowed to have Chlorine Gas and to produce and that this was excluded by the ban on chemical weapons, agreed by the USA!
    Obviously you have no idea about the reasons why it was excluded = he is still allowed to have etc.
    And obviously you have no idea that Chlorine Gas is easy to Purchase for anyone on the world, as well you have obviously no idea and knowledge that the rebels have also Chlorine Gas!

    So .... "Wakey, wakey"! Who is living in a shadow world again? Look in the mirror to see the Person and next time you better inform yourself about Facts before writing such BS - thank you!
     
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    Russian navy ran from Syria

    This was a very smart thing to do for Putin as the Russian "Navy" is so completely outmatched it should not even be in the same ocean. Just imagine what would happen if someone "Accidently" fired a shot.
     
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    The reality is that the attack was inevitable and Russia moved their ships out of the way so that neither side would have such an 'accidental' event. I believe the Russian AA batteries also stood down. Putin may be crazy but he isn't stupid.
     
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    ROFL ... may I can Quote you next time when an American Claims my English is too bad to understand ... as proof that it isn't? :roflol:

    O dear ... you have first of all basic knowledge to learn, because this part of your post shows, that you have no idea and blabber only the mental BS of others like a parrot! First, learn about the basics of things before attacking someone like me.

    But to show you the total idiocy of the article, let's take this part here:

    "The motive was Putin's who wanted to show that anyone betraying Mother Russia would pay for it sooner or later..."

    Skripal was a double agent in the Russian secret service, was unmasked, spent 10 years in a Russian prison and lives in England since 2010!
    Considering that he could have died at any time in the Russian prison "by accident" and no one would have cared ... the guy lives unmolested in England for 8 years and all of a sudden Putin has to show that no one is safe from him?

    Why? Because of Ukraine or Syria? Come on, do not be ridiculous ...!:deadhorse:

    Really ... the whole world was worried after the end of the USSR what happened to the vast arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and how safe the items are, or even the laboratories that researched and developed it, to the underpaid experts regarding bribes ,

    Especially the one you mentioned, Ivan Kiwelidi, is the PROOF that exactly THAT happened to Nowichok in 1995. It's been in the process files since 1995, and in 1995, Putin was still a tiny light around Yeltsin only!

    But clearly, the fact that it was demonstrably sold to the underworld in 1995 or before by a chemist - Leonid Rink - is concealed by the witch Theresa May, is ignored by the other idiots and so it can only be Putin and officially Russia ... and guys like you think you can use this nonsense without your brain or even inform yourself!
     
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    So thanks to Putin that he kept calm and does not Play "Trump 2.0" ...
     
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    How did Trump say something analogous in another matter?
    My red "buzzer" is bigger ... and that's what scares people. It can be so big as he wants, the buzzer on the other side is big enough to die as second!
     
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    Is there something, somewhere in this that has anything to do with my commentary, the thread topic or ....well...ANYTHING?
     

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