Far more school kids die from a drug over dose

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  1. katzgar

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    your comments are absurd. your assertion that school shootings are ok is sad.
     
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    Cannabis has the same addiction rate as alcohol around 10%. THC may at one time been relatively harmless but todays concentrate are "NOT THAT"! That's one of the points that elude people like Questaerr. THC over the years has proven it's a progressive substance as todays THC percentages are 3-4 time the levels they were in the 50's and 60's. In some, not all, there will be a point where the user will acclimate to todays current 60-90% levels and some will need to progress/include additional substances to boost what THC can't get them to anymore.

    I quit using it for better then a decade "Job related" and after leaving employment I recently started dabbling in the concentrates. At first the effects were debilitating and after a few months not that big a deal anymore. The point I'm trying to make is, anyone thinking that THC is going to curb the use of heroin, crack, meth and other big boy drugs they are mistaken! In the end THC will just be a co-substance just like four fingers of 80 proof is with a oxy or a molly :)

    It's simply another substance to blame future health and mental problems on, just like Nicotine and Alcohol today..
     
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    Are you even reading the right post? Where is the hell are you even coming up with that nonsense interpretation LOLOL
     
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    You are wrong about so much in this thread.

    Marijuana is not a gateway drug. There is no such thing as gateway drugs. Most marijuana users do not move on to harder more addictive drugs.

    Alcohol addiction and marijuana addiction are not the same thing... Alcohol can and will kill you. Is connected with higher rates of crime, higher rates of car accidents, and higher rates of dependence.

    Marijuana legalization has already shown a decrease in opiate overdoses: https://drugabuse.com/legalizing-marijuana-decreases-fatal-opiate-overdoses/

    Marijuana is a great pain-killer. It works wonders for people with chronic pain and is much less dangerous than opiates and much less addictive.
     
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    Here in Massachusetts we have an astonishing heroin problem and it's not in the inner city. School age kids are dying from Fentanyl laced heroin and high grade heroin. I don't have any numbers about overdoses while in school but does it matter? Here there is less concern about this than what kind of guns you own. You'll never convince anyone that pot has negative effects especially casual users but I've never met a real stoner that was interested in any thing else but getting high. When a drug intrudes that much into your life how can you say it isn't a problem. We know the long term effects of alcohol and tobacco why are so many in denial about marijuana?
     
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    Same reason that conservatives went ape **** and invaded the wrong country after 9-11.

    Which caused far less deaths than drug overdoses or gun shootings.
     
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    Not In my case and the people I associated with. It wasn't a "Huge leap" to trying LSD, meth tabs, a dime bag of reds! Of course this is the bay area back when all the leftist were turn out substance over bullshit too! It's no different today, people that believe THC stops experimentation are just naïve believers in the propaganda invented to give Cannabis a good name, you know, like it's cures cancer, tumors and depression :roll:

    It's pretty revealing to have watched the evolution of Cannabis :) First the propagandist use medicinal to give the illusion it had some positive reason to allow. And then when Europe began separating the medicinal compound from the hallucinogen the media ignored that and decided to be "Somewhat" honest about the "WHY" and that was always to get high, not well :)

    A few of the propagandist ruse.

    Hemp can supply oil, we can make clothing/fabrics with it. We can feed livestock and make rope to tether them with. We can make carbon fiber and build car bodies and biofuels to run them on. We can make bird seed, cat scratching posts and burgers and lets not forget makeup, nail polish, HOMES too :)

    And what are we doing with the wonder weed after all those claim, baking our brains LMFAO :)
     
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    THC has been around forever, and widely used in the entertainment industry so why have we lost so many artist to narcotics if the weed was a suitable plateau, that's the $64 dollar question!
     
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    the gateway drug theory is debunked.

    also, not only should weed be legal, every drug should be legal. the government has no business telling people what substances people are allowed to consume. if i want to smoke DMT out of a lightbulb at the national mall, that's nobody's business but my own.
     
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    LSD is not a hard drug. Meth does not come in tabs. Nobody has ever called anything a "dime bag of reds". THC is a cannabinoid, not a hallucinogen. You sound like a shitty after-school special. You should leave the drug talk to people that are actually well acquainted with drugs, because you are very obviously full of ****.

    also, have you considered that maybe if people didn't have to meet drug dealers to get an overwhelmingly common and benign recreational substance people wouldn't know as many people that sell hard drugs
     
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    Your anecdotal experience means nothing. The majority of people who smoke marijuana do not go on to use other drugs.

    "in 2009, 2.3 million people reported trying pot — compared with 617,000 who tried cocaine and 180,000 who tried heroin."

    http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/29/marijuna-as-a-gateway-drug-the-myth-that-will-not-die/

    People who want to use drugs use what they find appealing and available. Marijuana just happens to fit into both of those categories. It is easy to obtain and is a generally positive experience for the user.

    Marijuana has medicinal use according to doctors and other medical health professionals. You opinions are noted and easily dismissed.
     
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    1300 dead kids...killed by guns

    6000 injured.

    Does it make it better that a lot of them are INTENTIONALLY killed?
     
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    Because drug overdose is self inflicted. Mass shootings are not. Make sense? Probably not. Not a good comparison. Please move on to your next illogical post.
     
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    Well that shows we are not of the same genre or era young man ;)

    Or as we called them Meth Tabs :) As with Cannabis they just got stronger with refinements but Meth tabs nonetheless..
     
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    "social atmosphere" ?

    you mean the same one in which all those Asian American kids don't do drugs?
     
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    If that's the case any other is also easily dismissed too ;)
     
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    Of course not, what's upsetting is the lack of attention the bleeding heart leftist gives to the real reason they are dying, that's a travesty in itself!
     
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    Meth is a pretty specific amphetamine. It only comes in pill form as the prescription Desoxyn. The folks you knew were most likely taking other amphetamines.
     
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    GARBAGE. Why are there so many old pot smokers? Answer, cuz they NEVER felt the desire to progress to harder drugs.
     
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    This is more nonsense like all your posts. Pot is not a gateway drug. The term gateway drug is some of the most intrusive propaganda ever conceived. In fact it's much less dangerous than alcohol. Anyone today has access to drugs and everyone is free to try them. Why do most people not? Because they are informed (and or they don't want to go through the black market). That should be the priority, not a drug war that is only costing more money and lives, and locking people up for things that should not be illegal in the first place.

    There are always going to be deaths caused by drug overdose, just like there will always be gun violence. The question is the best method of reducing them and prohibition is not the solution.

    Also those drugs that cause overdoses are already illegal. If those drugs were legal but regulated would it cause more or less deaths? That is the real question and the only one that has any relation to the gun issue. The OP has no relevance.

    But still drug overdose is self inflicted unlike the mass gun violence both sides are upset about. They are two separate things entirely in that regard.
     
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    Buy weed legally and none of that occurs.
     
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    The wise choice would be to trust the opinion of doctors.
     
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    LOL, what ever you say :) They were yellow, made your hair feel like it was standing on end, and after a couple day of crushing and snorting you smelled like a pissy diaper. They were just a lesser refined version of today crystal meth, it would be a little weird for the culture to referred to it as Meth/Tabs in the 60's if they weren't considered as such.
     

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