Gaza, ‘West Bank,’ No Longer Occupied Territories in 2017 State Dept. Human Rights Report

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The US State Dept. on Friday issued its 2017 Country Reports on Human Rights Practices, which document the status of human rights and worker rights in nearly 200 countries and territories – as required by law. The report will be used by Congress, the White House, and the Judiciary as their factual resource for decision-making in matters ranging from assistance to asylum.

    For the first time since 1977, when these reports were first filed, the Gaza Strip and the “West Bank” are not defined as Israeli occupied territory.

    The report, reflecting the Trump administration’s radically different stand regarding Israel, compared to previous Democratic as well as Republican administrations, sings the praise of Israel’s democracy, while presenting in a fair and balanced manner the Jewish State’s efforts to balance its democratic tradition with its security needs. Indeed, one of the report’s opening comments is that in 2017 in Israel “civilian authorities maintained effective control over the security services.”

    http://www.jewishpress.com/news/isr...17-state-dept-human-rights-report/2018/04/21/

    Well, I say this is as significant as it gets. Gently but surely, the United States is pushing Palestinians to the negotiating table with Israel. After all, there are bound to be many many other countries who’ll take US lead and stop calling Judea and Samaria “occupied”... and what do poor Palestinians left with then?

    I say, this is an excellent news for Palestinian people. Enough listening to Abbas and to Hamas, get rid of them and sit-down with Israel at the negotiating table. That is, if Palestinians are able to put down Molotov cocktails, knives, rocks and stop firing rockets. Not sure that they can.
    Thank you for the outstanding Middle East policy, President Trump :applause:
     
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    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cheering for a country that has committed a war crime??
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    So there are no Israeli soldiers in the West Bank?
     
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    GoogleMurrayBookchin Banned

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    Gaza is an open-air prison, Israel is an apartheid state.
     
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    Plenty in Judea and Samaria which are in the West Bank, sure. Why do you axe? The State department has spoken, my friend.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Israel is a shiny town on the hill. Gaza is a dump.
     
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    Wanna name me a country that has not committed a war crime? Why do you single out Israel?

    We both know why.
     
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    you ever consider that it might have something to do with israel being an apartheid state that treats gaza as an open air prison
     
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    Others that have committed war crimes have been called out on them, and their leaders tried as war criminals. Israel on the other hand have been freed to do so with the endorsement of the US government.

    We both know why I singled out Israel? Is it your cute way of accusing me of being an anti-semite??
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed I have. And I concluded, Gaza’s Palestinians deserve their lot - after all, they have the government that they themselves elected.
     
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    Ah, so Trump’s toadies have just changed the definitions so that they can ignore Israel’s apartheid state and occupation of Palestinian territory.
     
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    you understand that prisons arent places people choose to be, yes?
     
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    You have a simplistic narrow minded view. Disliking the government of Israel and its crimes have zero to do with hating Jews. You need to take a logic class.
     
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    I'm not smart enough to understand it. The only explanation I can come up with is workaday Jews, like blacks, pull the lever for Democrats out of habit... seemingly unaware that today's Democrats are not even remotely conflatable with their grandmother's Democrats.
     
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    Hope you didn't hurt yourself pulling that out of your @$$. Jew haters align themselves with the far right.
     
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    Do you hate the governments of Iran, Kuwait, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon? All of them done unto Palestinians much worse than Israel did. Yessir Arafat said so himself.

    Why do you single out Israel? I know why. Do you?
     
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    What a dumb comment and deflection. You opened this specific OP about Israel, so I'm addressing Israel. Are you now trying to derail your very own thread. Why don't you take a stab at defending their war crime rather than wasting your time accusing me of being an anti-semite. You are clueless as to what that term means so your accusation is worthless.
     
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    Who’s forcing Gazans to stay in Gaza? The world is a big place... they can always go to Egypt. WTF do they keep trying to infiltrate Israel? What’s wrong with Egypt? Sinai is a big and welcoming place full of brothers Muslims!
     
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    israel
     
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    Uhm no, I’m being perfectly logical. If you hate government of Israel for their war crimes, you’ll have no troubles admitting you also hate governments of Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, Jordan, Lebanon for their war crimes.

    Do you hate them for their war crimes agains against brethren Palestinians? Da or Nyet?
     
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    Why not Egypt?
     
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    Of course I hate them. You on the other hand, is being a hypocrite. That much is clear.

    What's with the Da or Nyet? Are you a commie?
     
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    Give yourself more credit than you do, friend. Your reasoning is stellar.
     
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    It’s a good start. Now, Israel is not perfect, but being democracy, they do persecute their own who breaks the law. If you give them credit for that, we’ll continue making progress.
     

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