Can you be spiritual without being religious?

Can you be spiritual without being religious?


Spirituality might be exemplified by this quote.

John 6 ; 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.


One can practice spirituality alone. One cannot practice religiosity without a group/tribe.


Religiosity, I would define roughly, as promoting an organized or local church/temple/tribe etc.


Spirituality ignores our tribal instincts. Our religiosity demand that we cater to our tribal/fellowship needs.


If you are spiritually minded and have a working moral system that you think is the best, I think that you should want to share it and have others follow it. To share it should have you join a church or religion so as to promote your good thinking.


Does a spiritual mind, if truly spiritual, have to join a religion, even if not morally up to your standard, in order to share your view and perhaps help that religion rise up to your better standard of excellence?


If you answer yes to that question, is that why spiritually minded atheists and others now forming atheist churches or churches that take a more secular role within society?


Regards

DL

 

You don't have to join a church to read the bible and be religious.
Plenty of new age spiritual non denominational groups out there. Meditation groups I would say are spiritual. I would even venture to say that psychedelic drug users are too. Anything that gets you feeling amazing is spiritual in a way. People into running or weight lifting or yoga. Hobbies like rock climbing and through hiking are very spiritual.
I think everyone is spiritual and is in awe of the world at points in their life. Feeling a part of the universe is amazing. To deny that it is amazing whether it is God or randomness is to miss the point of life. Science doesn't explain everything.

 

The way i see it, good is good. If atheists who are in excellence are forming businesses and if they allow for the employees to exercise their freedom of religion in that business, i guess it would be seen as okay by everyone.

 

Personally, I see religion as the adherence to someone elses interpretation of a spiritual subject. So I would say yes, you can be both. If you're a true believer but follow what others say about that beleif, you're spiritual and religious. If you follow along but don't believe, you're just religious. And if you follow your own interpretation based on your own sense, experience and understanding, then you're just spiritual.

 

What good does it do to be spiritual? The whole point of being religious is to get the reward of eternal life. So if being spiritual won't give it to you then you are just wasting your time and energy even more so than by being religious.

 

Getting high is not getting spiritual.

John 6 ; 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

If you have a spiritual truth, do you have a responsibility to share it with religions that do not seem to have the spiritual truth you think you have?

Should we not all try to improve the thinking of our social control organizations?

Regards
DL

 

Sure, if everyone did it and bore the same costs as you for prayer rooms, lost production etc.

What if your competitor does not and is slowly driving you out of business?

Rather an awkward situation. No?

Regards
DL

 

What if your spirituality conflicts with your church?

IE. You do not discriminate against people without a just cause and your church does. Think homophobia and misogyny.

Regards
DL

 

The good of spirituality, I think, is that it is likely attached to our selfish gene. It is the best way to think to enhance our chances of survival. It would lead to cooperation instead of competition.

As to eternal life, I see that more as a curse than a blessing. Would you really want to live forever?

Regards
DL

 

I dunno why anyone would congregate with others whose morals/ethics are at such odds. I mean, I know some ppl do, but I don't understand it, so i dont think Im equipped to answer that. Speculatively - peer pressure?

 

A person can be spiritually without being religious, of course.

 

Spiritual is loosely defined and it's different for everyone. Very subjective. I think the Beatles experimenting with LSD enhanced their spirituality and they made God like music for their era. Lennon even said they were bigger than Jesus and we know how that turned out.
Likewise young people today at a rave party taking ecstasy would describe it as a spiritual experience. Connection with other people and getting more in touch with themselves while altering their consciousness. I can't think of anything more spiritual actually. Sitting in a church listening to some guy tell me how to live my life is not spiritual IMO. Native Americans were very spiritual and took peyote to have visions.
Spiritual just means affecting the spirit or soul.

 

Eternal life is not a reward and every life is eternal.

 

My spirituality doesn't require a church, robes, rites, or worship.

 

If you are already in a group/church, is it not a part of ones duty to try to elevate their morals?

Regards
DL

 

Let me repeat.

What if your spirituality conflicts with your church?

IE. You do not discriminate against people without a just cause and your church does. Think homophobia and misogyny.

If you are already in a group/church, is it not a part of ones duty to try to elevate their morals?

Regards
DL

 

Religiosity is practiced in groups. Spirituality is not.

Jesus was a spiritual teacher and preached that we should all pray, practice our spirituality, in private.

Drugs are enhancers to situations. They are not creators of situations, other than getting high.

It is possible that their relaxing influence might help you open your third eye though. Different oats for different folks. In ancient days, many drugs were used but few sages recommend them. They do recommend fasting and meditation.

Regards
DL

 

You are talking about people and their situations, youwas, the which you don't know.

Gnosticism is the great hum bug.

 

Is it all about you?

No do for others type of thinking?

Regards
DL

 

You are the argument not the revelation.

You fight against the great revelation.

That is why you continue to fail.

But there is still hope.

 

Bite me lame brain.

Regards
DL

 

Until we have a mutually agreed upon definition of spirituality, one has to accept that it means different things to different people.

I have a good friend who is Jewish in name only, having not observed any tenets of Judaism her entire life. When anyone questions why she still identifies as Jewish, she claims that she is "spiritually" Jewish.

Similarly, I have known a handful of people over the years who were cafeteria Catholics, choosing only the tenets that fit with their lifestyle. When asked why they still identified as Catholic, they replied that they were spiritual Catholics.

 

I don't think so. Its admirable, but not ones duty. Theres too much life to live to try and make everyone 'moral.' At some point you have to accept that not everyone can see things your way.

 

Is this the case with you?