Can you be spiritual without being religious?

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Of course a person can be spiritual without being religious.

    Organized religion simply provides priests in black robes and massive amounts of superstition. Often a war or two is thrown in, as with the Crusades.
     
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    Things and chances of changing views change daily.

    For evil to grow and all that.

    Sages see correction as the loving thing to do.

    Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

    Test that view for good and or evil.

    1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.

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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    No.

    Gnostic Christians are esoteric ecumenists and we are quick to accept any better ideology or cherry pick from them so as to rise our standards of excellence as high as possible.

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    Would a spiritual person try to reduce that superstition in his fellow man?

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  5. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Only when he was young. The older he gets the more he realizes that a large part of the same "fellow man" prefers the bliss of ignorance, and would rather avoid the pain of enlightenment.
     
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    It is an ever changing audience and a spiritual person will, I think, venture forth in different venues in search of the minds not subject to what you put.

    A spiritual person, as Churchill said, will never surrender or give up.

    What better gift can one give to a slaved mind than to free it.

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    The Lord did not imbue in me a great ability to change such emotional conditions in others. I'll leave that to more sensitive folks. Should anyone be looking for an example to follow, they'll find mine quite equitable. And thats good enough for me.
     
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    If you show it, yes.

    You said you did not where it is most required.

    I take that as a partial truth as I have read you here showing your example.

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    The answer is yes, and you just have to read Seneca, Epictetus or Marcus Aurelius.
     
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    You will note how they shared their ideas.

    Should all who think they have a new spiritual message also share it with those that need it the most?

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    I think that if you have a way to higher your spirit, you should share it with people who need it.

    The more you are, the stronger you are.
     
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    Personally I have no desire to live forever but religious people do want to live forever, which is why they worship a deity.
     
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    I agree. The religions should recognize that and not accentuate their wealth instead of their numbers.

    That would make this song real, and the garbage mainstream religions we have today much better.



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    For the majorly, doubtful. For those who have never thought of it, perhaps.

    The so called worship, I think is self-delusion for the appeasement of their tribal nature.

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    What do you think a Gnostic Christian is?
     
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    In brief. We are esoteric ecumenists and free thinkers.

    More like what is described in this link that shows how intelligently the search for God was before literal reading of myths reared it's ugly Christian head and they became idol worshipers instead of God seekers. Seeking is what Jesus preached, Not finding and idolizing the man made Gods.

    http://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2

    Our focus is morals and that is why we condemn the mainstream homophobic and misogynous religions.

    The following is a part of how we see things.


    Modern Gnostic Christians name our God "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.

    You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.

    The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation.

    In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that lazy Christians have forgotten that they are to do. That is, become brethren to Jesus.

    That is why some say that the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.

    Here is the real way Jesus taught.

    Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

    Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

    Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.



    Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.



    The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural.

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    Is this the same as Gnosticism?
     
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    NEWS ALERT: religion and being religious does far more to divert and entice one away from the goal. Spirituality...... REAL spirituality...... -does far more and offers a real chance of attaining the goal that religion hides and diverts people from.
     
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    The goal is to Realize it.
     
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    One can be a Gnostic to any and all religions.

    I am a Gnostic Christian and show what I recommend to Christians.

    But yes, Free thinking and being esoteric ecumenists etc. is what all Gnostics would advocate as, as far as I can see.

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    We see all life dying here.

    How are you interpreting "every life is eternal".

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    The spirit/soul is eternal. Your body is just your vehicle while you're here.
     
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    You know this as a fact, how?

    Tell us how you can know what would be in the supernatural realm.

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    The insight of every realized mystic is that their Being is One, is not physical, is not mental, and is beyond passing time, and therefore eternal. It is without attributes. Hence it is without insight, without intellect, without intelligence, or knowledge, or belief, or age, or power. All that can be said about it is that it is One Life, One Being, One "IS" with Knowing while being without knowledge, it is eternal without passing time, and it is the Self without a body or its mind.
     
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    I can offer an example of actual Knowing in the spiritual realm: unconditional love.

    I have had many arguments with others who cannot grasp unconditional love and who refuse to see. They give examples of conditional love as "unconditional". But if they would do the things needed to overcome all things, conditions, knowledge, belief, hope, fear, purposes, intentions, understandings, concerns, and expectations they have and hold, and for just a few minutes, they could Know unconditional love too.

    And in case it makes any difference, I thoroughly disagree with just about everything I know of that TrackerSam has ever said on any other subject.
     
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