Carnage on Gaza border as Palestinians shot dead by Israeli

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  1. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    "So now not wanting civilians to getshot is " terrorist-sympathizers" ?"

    Well...

    Since you're blaming the wrong people, you invite the charge.
     
  2. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    Yes, correct again.
    Yes, Muslims believe a BUNCH of crazy things, as these polls all show. Questerr can't condemn Mohammad, but instead condemns ME for simply pointing out these systemic atrocities:

    Economist (Pew 2013): 74% who favor Islamic law in Egypt say it should apply to non-Muslims as well.
    http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2013/04/daily-chart-20?fsrc=scn/tw/te/dc/Shariadolikeit

    WZB Berlin Social Science Center: 65% of Muslims in Europe say Sharia is more important than the law of the country they live in.
    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4092/europe-islamic-fundamentalism

    The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015): 51% of Muslim-Americans say that Muslims should have the choice of being judged by Sharia courts rather than courts of the United States (39% disagree).
    http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy....nline-Survey-of-Muslims-Topline-Poll-Data.pdf

    2015 (Jyllands Posten): 77% of Muslims in Denmark believe the Quran's instructions should be 'fully appied'.
    http://www.thelocal.dk/20151013/danish-muslims-more-devout-than-in-years-past

    2015 (Jyllands Postn): Only 53% of Danish Muslims believe Danish law should be based on the consitution and not the Quran.
    http://www.thelocal.dk/20151019/forty-percent-danish-muslims-wants-quran-based-laws

    Pew Research (2016): A majority of Muslims in 10 countries favor basing laws on the Quran (inc. Pakistan, Pal. Auth, Malaysia, Jordan, Senegal, Nigeria, Indonesia, Lebanon and Turkey). Educated Muslims also favored Sharia, including 55% in 'secular Turkey'.
    http://www.pewglobal.org/2016/04/27/the-divide-over-islam-and-national-laws-in-the-muslim-world/
    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/04/majority_of_educated_muslims_abroad_still_favor
    _imposition_of_sharia_law.html

    Arab Observatory of Religions and Freedom (2016): 79% of Libyans believe Sharia should be the sole source of legislation, as do 63% in Algeria and 60% in Morocco.
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ntries-providing-major-source-of-eu-migrants/

    Africa Jeune - Arab Observatory of Religions and Freedom (2016): Most Muslims in North Africa say they are Muslim first and citizens second. This is a principle source for migrants to Europe.
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ntries-providing-major-source-of-eu-migrants/

    University of Munster Study (2016):. 73% say that books and movies which offend religion should be banned.
    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8321/germany-turks-integration

    Syarif Hidayatullah State University Study (2017): 80% of Islamic education teachers favor enforcement of Sharia (in Indonesia); 89% say non-Sunni religious minorities "should not be accomodated" in Indonesia.
    http://www.voanews.com/a/majority-o...-in-indonesia-support-sharia-law/3652387.html

    Gallup Pakistan & Gilani Research (2017): 67% of Pakistanis want Sharia as the only law of the land (up from 51% in 2010); Only 5% said that Sharia should not be imposed.
    https://www.wionews.com/south-asia/two-out-of-three-pakistanis-favour-sharia-survey-16362

    A 2015 study by Pew Research Center showed that only 28% of Pakistanis had an unfavorable view of ISIS.
    [ http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/ ]
     
  3. k995

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    AS if people really care about some old fued.

    They do care when they see every few years there family getting blown up, they doc are an economic/military blockade that thrws them into abject poverty, they do care when israel ethnicly cleans and settle more and more of previous palestinian area's.

    Again these are the causes of the continued violence and these are mianly in control of isreal not palestinians.


    Funny btw how you talk about arabs, widening to conflict to justify shooting some teenagers that throw a rock into the direction of israel.
     
  4. Questerr

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    Similar to how you must approve of the idea that non-whites are 3/5ths a person because you don’t have the moral courage to remove that part of the Constitution, yes?
     
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    My my, your lack of knowledge shows again. The Islamic game is the long game. You are thinking in TV inspired Western timescales.
     
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    Thats seems to hars for the jews at the time: in war people flee. No doubt some got cleansed by jews from their lands (just like palestinians got the same treatment from jews) But thats ancient history and beyond setting borders/who will pay to house those refugees of no real issue
     
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    Muslims have often even celebrated the killing of Jewish CHILDREN.

    "Palestinian Mother Overjoyed Her Son Murdered Jewish Child"
    http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/29527/Default.aspx

    Should religion be classified as a mental disease?
     
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    Its not, gaza is cut of from the world mostly under control of israel when palestinians in gazaz rebel they get brutaally opressed by overwhelming force.

    Just like what happedn in the ghetto's. You just dont like it becuase you are siding with the nazi's now.
     
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    NOT ALL HAVE TO for said verses to be terrible for humanity - you never seem to understand that, my friend.
     
  10. Hoosier8

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    Because??? Something you have not come to terms with yet.
     
  11. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    But you want me to condemn all Muslims for approving of those verses, even though you acknowledge not all of them do?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most do. Your point?
     
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    "We are god's chosen people".....wasn't it the supremacist Nazis who said that? Or was it the supremacist Zionist-Jews.....I can't seem to differentiate between the supremacist Nazis and the supremacist Zionist-Jews, they seem to similar.
     
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    Ok, let's try this: condemn the Muslims who give their kids those verses w/out saying those verses are wrong or w/out changing those verses.
     
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    No again strawman arguments .

    To me palestinians can resist against their opressors aka IDF/israeli police/gov .

    Not against civilians, just like the IDF should not shoot/bomb palestinains civilians , seeing that both are doing that bth are simply terrorost groups using violence against whole population to further their policial goals.
     
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    Yes, clearly the polling data I've shown on this thread shows clearly that MOST Muslims have bad beliefs.
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    Most Christians approve of the parts of the Bible that say non-Christians should be tortured. Should I condemn all Christians for that?
     
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    I am blaming all those that do the violence be them israeli or palestinians.

    You just seem to think all palestinians are terrorists and israel can kill them as they please.
     
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    Name some names.
     
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    By "protest" you actually mean "throw homemade bombs", I assume.
     
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    Look your opinion is just repeating itself even after being seriously defeated. Ima take a crack at this. I would be inclined to agree but I believe the Hamas leadership is intentionally sacrificing its young men to escalate the situation. No one cares but they are trying. I mean if they want to peacefully protest then why on God's green earth do anything violent at all?? The reason why is transparent. Peace doesn't make headlines in the West. Death does. So they are instructing their young men to do aggressive violent protests. Molotov cocktails, rockets, rocks etc to provoke Israel who is quite ready to help them. This thread creator is a known Hamas rationalizer. A propagandist. You have taken the bait. Hook line and sinker.
     
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    Ah conspiracy theories now, how not suprising at all.

    Yes "the islamic game" , the ultimate sing of desparation to justify killing a teenager that throws a rock. On the same level as "blood libel" used to justify killing jews.
     
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    LOL, sure honey, let's pretend that history does not exist, that the arab world has not been committed to wiping Israel off the map since the day it was born and resorted to wars and terror for decades before the occupation. Let's ignore the fact that the occupation is the result of the Arab invasion of Israel, the wars of annihilation that they started, lost and refused to accept reasonable peace proposals. Let's forget that Gaza is ruled by a "democratically" elected terrorist organization which charter is dedicated to wiping Israel off the map and killing all jews, that in response to Israel's complete withdrawal from Gaza they fired 20,000 rockets at Israel, that they organized todays violent raid on Israel's border, using women and children as human shields.

    Let's ignore all these inconvenient facts, right? because with them in mind, your entire case is just gibberish. Jeez, Israel haters are so predictable.
     
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    Virtually every Muslim who has ever lived, arguably.

    But ethically you of course have no problem whatsoever with a parent giving their impressionable young children texts that say to kill gays, approve of slavery, teach violent anti-Semitism, teach that a woman's testimony is only worth HALF that of a man, teach to BEAT women (Q4:34 Shakir), etc. Unless of course you'll condemn those Muslims who do that here and now.
     
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    Since when is a rock " a homemade bomb" ?

    Care to show how many of those "homemade bombs" made victims among the idf? Care to show how many were used?

    ANything to justify shooting them acros a fence, from a distance?
     

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