Carnage on Gaza border as Palestinians shot dead by Israeli

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    So we agree that Christians are delusional for LITERALLY believing that Jesus magically died on the cross, and literally went up to the magic place in the sky, and literally will come back to rule over the world, correct?
     
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    It's all on Trump and Netanyahu. BDS!!
     
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    The key word here would be "context". The context of this clearly applies to the time in which Mohammad lived, which was the freaking DARK AGES. They didn't exactly have lethal injection then, did they?
     
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    Nope, science (which you reject because it doesn't conform to your worldview, hypocritically, just like a theist would) defines "delusions" and religious beliefs don't meet those definitions.
     
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    So this verse does NOT apply to all Jews?
    "For the iniquity of the Jews We made unlawful for them certain (foods) good and wholesome which had been lawful for them;- in that they hindered many from Allah's Way" - Qur'an 4:160
    So tell us, Questerr, WHICH specific Jews does this apply to then?
     
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    The Jews of Mecca and Medina during the time they tried to wipe out Mohammad and his followers.
     
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    If people believe in a fictional being (you and I are smart enough to not believe in him, but THEY do), and that being is ethically a monster, then it's best that that being is condemned, for the sake of the people that believe in said monster.
     
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    Stop being terrorists, and Israeli soldiers will just ignore you and let you go by your business.
     
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    Because condemning the fictional being does what? Exactly what does it do?
     
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    It clearly does not say that - it says "the Jews". Like Hitler talked about "the Jews". Can you condemn Allah for saying "the Jews".
     
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    Fourteen ****ing hundred ****ing years ago!

    Jews have learned, together with Christians.

    Have Moslems?
     
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    Yes, stop following the Islamic principle of being a Jihadist in a holy war - i.e. being Jihadists until all the world is Muslim per Q8:39, and people will stop shooting at you.
     
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    Ah I see, you don't understand what "context" means. Ok, let me explain it as I would to someone with only half a brain:

    A book consists of sentences, but those sentences are linked together to tell a story. And that story has to be understand in whole groups of sentences, you can't just take one sentence out of the story and expect it to make total sense.
     
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    1.6 billion people don't believe it's fictional!
     
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    The Jews in Israel don't seemed to have learned, except maybe from the Germans in the proper techniques for ethnic cleansing.
     
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    And? Does condemning their fictional being affect them in any way except making them think you are an *******?
     
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    Ah but they have... they’ learned not to bend over and grab the ankles... a sweetest lesson of them all.
     
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    This FUTURE-predicting passage in the Islamic texts clearly talks about Jews IN GENERAL, so stop trying to defend the barbaric Islamic texts: "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (the Boxthorn tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_antisemitism
     
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    Yeah, wipe out those sub-humans in the camps and ghettos before anyone can make you pay for your crimes.
     
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    You will be showing them the truth as you see it - that their fictional being is just that, FICTIONAL. Today they think he's so REAL that they prey to him to kill the Jews.
     
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    And are Muslims commanded to make those prophecies come true? Are they commanded to take the power and will of Allah into their own hands?

    If someone showed you the future and it showed "Modern Secular Humanists will fight Muslims", would you take that to mean you should do out and start killing Muslims now?
     
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    I realize that making moral judgments is very very hard for you - that's due to low self-esteem, in many cases. Can't "judge people" because you don't believe in YOUR OWN morality to begin with.
     
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    Them peaceful Palestinians... flying Molotov kites, wire cutting Israeli defence fence... hurling stones at Israeli army... digging peace tunnels... dying to get into Israel :love:
     
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    My truth is subjective. I don't own the truth. I believe their deity is fictional. I could be entirely wrong.
     
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    Fictional beings are not people. Morally judging fictional beings as if they were real...isn't that exactly the kind of thing you would condemn theists as "delusional" for doing?
     

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