Carnage on Gaza border as Palestinians shot dead by Israeli

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    If it was from my GOD/PROPHET (if I had one, of course) then it certainly MIGHT prompt me to do that, like it can certainly prompt Muslims to do that.
    Can we at least agree that that it would have been far better for the world if Muslims remove that passage and/or if that passage was never uttered by Mohammad in the first place? Surely you care enough about the world to agree with me on that point, no? Please don't tell me that you hate humanity so much that you can't agree with me on that point.
     
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    Or they could just not follow it, as the vast majority of Muslims in the world do since they never will harm a Jew or anyone else in their lives.
     
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    Oh my god! It's GENOCIDAL wording and you try to DEFEND IT! Just listen to yourself!
     
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    Are you talking about Syrians... attacking and killing Palestinians in Syrian refugee camps? :buggered:
     
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    Then they are admitting that their god is wrong. Will they admit that their god is wrong?
     
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    I didn't defend anything. I objected to your, once again, mindlessly literal interpretation of every religious text with no second spared for context. You would fit in perfect with ISIS.
     
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    Why would they have to? They can just ignore that passage.

    Let me explain it a different way: Its like how you ignore the science of psychology because it doesn't conform to your worldview, yet you don't condemn all of science as wrong.
     
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    Absolutely incredible! I propose that it would have been better if they remove that genocidal wording, or if it had never been said in the first place, and all you can come back with is "or they could just not follow it". Wow. That's crazy.
     
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    You can't condemn Muslims for giving their impressionable young children GENOCIDE-PROMOTING wording, can you? I can, you can't, it appears. Seriously, you SEEM very intellectual, and I'd bet money that you are, but if you can't condemn people who give their children GENOCIDE-PROMOTING wording then maybe you suffer from some un-diagnosed affliction (no offense.)
     
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    Alexa,

    You are comparing apples and bicycles. The last test for British soldiers was in Iraq and in Afghanistan and UK soldiers killed civilians there.

    But just imagine what would be the reaction of British soldiers if Scots will announce they want to take over England, will shoot rockets on British towns, burn English farms and 50 thousands Scots will decide to leave Scotland to occupy England. Do you think the reaction of British troops will be different than the reaction of Israeli troops?

    And let me tell you what is a different between Palestinians and Israelis: some time ago a Palestinians tried to kill Israeli soldiers. They did not succeed to kill, only wounded one and were shot. One was wounded laying of the ground. One Israeli soldier was pissed of because they wounded his friend and he killed the wounded terrorist. AND HE WAS TRIED AND SENTENCED FOR KILLING WOUNDED TERRORIST WHO ALMOST KILLED HIS BEST FRIEND.

    Do you know what happens to Palestinian who kills a civilian Israeli? When he is sitting in jail, he is getting a pension from Palestinian Authority.

    So who is dehumanize who?
     
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    They are never going to remove the "genocidal wording" because the Quran is a 1400 year old text with billions of copies in existence between print and the internet and just ****ing memorized in people's heads. Removing that wording is functionally impossible.
     
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    Like you would give impressionable young children a Constitution with racism-promoting wording. Should you be condemned?
     
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    So apparently you think that just "not following" genocide-promoting wording is better than getting rid of said wording or not having that wording said in the very first place? My jaw is dropping with every post of yours I read.
     
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    I think things that are actually possible are better than impossible pipe-dreams that will never happen, yes.
     
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    The Torah is even older. And it comes with the story, that the Jewish God massacred innocent Egyptian babies so the Jews could march to Canaan. And when they arrived there, the Jews with the blessing of their God, massacred EVERYBODY to thieve those lands. And look at them Jews go today... massacring non-Jewish civilians who want their properties back with snipers, only because of their ethnic background isn't Jewish.


    You know what really grinds my gears.
    That all kinds of pro Jewish Israel claim that Jews are so smart. But their are dumb enough to think peace can be obtained by massacring civilians who want to return to THEIR properties.
     
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    I didn't ask "would it be easy", I asked, basically, would you want that to happen, would it be better for the world....can we both agree that while certainly not 100% effective (you make a decent point), that it would be BEST FOR HUMANITY if that part of the Islamic texts was removed. Certainly we can agree on that?
     
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    ISIS would be proud of your constant defense of INDEFENSIBLE Islamic texts. Sure you're not with ISIS?
     
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    No, I can't be. I'm not mindlessly literal like you, their future recruit.
     
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    Yes, Muslims AND JEWS are immoral when they follow the texts/tone of their religion's texts. I should condemn the Jewish/Christian texts more than I do, notme....sorry to only condemn Islam in some threads.
    Yes, the Bible is more barbaric than you Qur'an:
    Number of Cruel or Violent Passages:
    Bible 1321
    Quran 532
    http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/06/which-is-more-violent-bible-or-quran.html
     
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    I'd also like for the US to implement an economy that consists solely of worker-owned, democratically-managed cooperatives, but that isn't going to happen. So passing moral judgment based on the lack of it happening is pointless.

    "Best for humanity" who the **** are you to determine what is "best" for humanity? Are you claiming to be a perfect supreme being with absolute perfect knowledge now?
     
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    They take Allah at his word, believe he says what he means and means what he says. Just because what he says is UTTERLY BARBARIC that's not enough reason to not do it that way!
     
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    A sling & rock is a lethal weapon.
    Ancient but still lethal.
    Similar to a spear, or bow and arrow,
    persons hurling rocks by sling should be SHOT!


    Just another example of Israeli restraint.
     
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    Yes, they do. Which means they are idiots with about a 3rd grader's understanding of theology and language. Are you in the same category as them?
     
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    Holy crap! You can't even agree that, say, not killing gays (which is advocated in the barbaric texts of all 3 main Abrahamic faiths!) is "best for humanity", can you!? You are running interference for ISIS, giving their barbaric texts cover. If you can't condemn Christians/Jews/Muslims for giving their impressionable young children texts that approve of KILLING GAYS, then you are in a different world, ethically, than forum members like crank and myself.
     
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    I wonder what you would say about, for instance, people throwing rocks at a group of soldiers standing in front a court house? Would you say they should kill everyone in the crowd throwing rocks?
     

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