Carnage on Gaza border as Palestinians shot dead by Israeli

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    Are theists all-knowing? Why are they not allowed to pick and choose their religious texts, but you are allowed to pick and choose science?
     
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    Or they could teach their children that the entity proposing those punishments (Allah/Mohammad) is immoral.
     
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    Maybe go back to the original thread of the debate and end this idiotic deflection to killing gays.
     
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    Science is not from an all-knowing god. Even Darwin, back in the day, got some stuff wrong.
     
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    Would you teach your children that all of science is wrong because you don't agree with psychology?
     
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    Yep, you get a head shot and you can kill a human with a sling and the proper weight of stone. So anyone using one as a weapon deserves to be shot, for he intends to kill with it.

    I think it can be said, validly, that the only good hamas palestinian is a dead hamas palestinian, given I read their charter here today from a link someone was good enough to provide. These people make no bones about their goals and intent. And with such goals and intent, they made it impossible for any agreement that does not involve the end of israel and the jews to ever happen. I said this prior, several times over the years. Fact are facts, and inconvenient facts are still facts.

    Not sure how the anti israel left can rationalize this to themselves in trying to deny hard facts. That they might try to is very indicative and revealing of what kind of minds we are dealing with when it comes to this group of folks. For from the way I understand them, the palestinians bear zero responsibility at all, and its all the fault of israel. ha ha.

    I don't want to fabricate a strawman here, so clear my perception up, if it is invalid.
     
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    And theists are not all knowing. So why are they not allowed to pick and choose which parts of their religious texts they want to believe in?
     
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    It would have saved many many words if you'd have just written "yes, I condemn them for them giving books to their children that say to kill gays".
    CLEARLY making a moral judgment is above you.
     
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    I'm not condemning hypothetical people you invented to make your ego feel bigger.
     
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    Yes, the Hamas charter says to kill Jews.
     
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    Really where? Quote it.
     
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    Quran 8:39 clearly states the goal of the Muslims (unless of course they will remove this verse or condemn Allah/Mohammad for saying it) is world domination....clearly. The Hamas Charter is more evidence of that.
     
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    Can we agree that if I show you that you'll condemn the many Muslims who support such a genocidal regime?
     
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    They BELIEVE it....you don't seem to understand that.
     
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    Dinner time, gotta run.
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    If it says to kill Jews. If it instead, for instance, opposed the statehood of Israel (which is a multi-religious, multi-ethnic state, including Arabs), then you would fall short in demonstrating that.
     
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    And all theists believe they must literally follow ever word of their texts and are not allowed to pick and choose?
     
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    "The document also quotes Islamic religious texts to provide justification for fighting against and killing the Jews, without distinction of whether they are in Israel or elsewhere.[42] It presents the Arab–Israeli conflict as an inherently irreconcilable struggle between Jews and Muslims, and Judaism and Islam, adding that the only way to engage in this struggle between "truth and falsehood" is through Islam and by means of jihad, until victory or martyrdom."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_Covenant#Violence_against_Jews
     
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    Yes, clearly world domination, although it is my understanding the the muslim of indonesia are not of this ilk. I think it is indonesia. And if I have the nation named correctly they also forbid any introduction of shia islam, for they are smart enough to know that only killing, conflict and violence will be the outcome of this mixing of the two contentious sects. And this would also explain why those middle eastern nations that have both sects have had to have strong arm brutal dictators, in order to maintain some kind of order within their respective nation.

    Given that I read where no one in the bush admin that had any power and say so, even knew of the enmity and hatred between the 2 sects, and went into that breaking of international law as uninformed and blind as a bat, but with no sonor to make up the difference in sight. Taking down hussein, allowed the majority shiites to get control of iraq, and they tend to side with the shiites in iran, and probably will when we invade iran. So we will be taking on two nations with that invasion. And we will have to kill many more because of this and starve out many more kids. Which should create us new friends in the middle east! The shiites will love us! And greet us as liberators!!
     
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    The palestanians intended to overwhelm the fence

    The IDFasked them politely not to but they didnt listen
     
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    Which it is

    Ask any haitian and they will tell you
     
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    They must really admire hitler and the nazis. For killing 7 million of those jews. I wonder if they have a holiday based upon this? Regardless I would bet they delight in that killing.

    Anyone who is anti israel and blames everything on them, should stay away from the hamas charter. For this will not in any manner serve their beliefs, in fact it might make them question their myopic tunnel vision.

    But I will not use any of these facts about hamas and the people in gaza, to justify all of what israel had done, to the palestinians of the west bank, and those under palestinian authority. For israel is clearly doing a land grab from the palestinians that might have a separate state one day. This is some nefarious sneaky crap israel under the zionist netanyahu, who will lie like hell in order to justify his agression and dirty tricks. Netanyahu does not want peace nor a two state solution, IMO. The sooner he leaves office and you get a moderate in, the better, in regards to the folks in the west bank. But for gaza? Forget about it.

    The only way to solve that problem, given hamas is to kill them out. It would be better for israel to just allow those iranian weapons to come in, and when hamas uses them, which they will, destroy everything in gaza, killing as many as you can. Sometimes sadly, this is the only solution. Given the religious ideology behind hamas. Talking them out of their islamic beliefs is not ever gonna happen. So, send em to paradise so they can consort with all of those virginal females. Give them their dreams and fantasies.
     
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    I appreciate that, but I'm afraid you don't know Muslims very well, then - ask Indonesian Muslims this question then: "Did Allah get Q8:39 wrong?"
    Go ahead, One Mind, ask them.
    Have a great night.
     
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    Here's a picture of the capital.
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    There are a lot of Israelis living near Gaza...

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    ... and the Israeli government is unwilling to put Israeli citizens at risk by allowing Gazans to storm through the border.
     

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