"White Privilege" doesn't exist

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  1. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    Not only did I read 1984. I taught it.
    I had hoped you would admit your blatant personal attack about me not knowing that” disability is the word is not used “when it is and apologize. Obviously you’re too small to do that. But I am not surprised
     
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    "Tolerance-workshops" and the narrative they teach make people afraid of speaking up. I went to a Liberal Arts-university and 99% of the students were afraid to speak what was on their mind in fear of being labelled "malevolent". I could tell they were even uncomfortable around me, but after a while they were less tense when they realised I didn't give a flyiing horse and was very humorous about "PC-stuff".
     
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    I know you "teach Orwell" because that whole dystopia was one giant "workshop". :D

    Why should I apologise? It is obvious that you are amerocentric. And I am still sure that the politically correct term is handicapable.
     
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    "I guess in your world we should have ignored the fact that Obama was the first African-American president."

    Yep. He is just another dude elected to the office. Skin color has no relevance. At all. Unenlightened people continue to pretend that it does, but that exists only in their minds.

    "I wonder if Amelia Airhart would have been upset?"


    I don't know. Maybe she was.

    However, Amelia Earhart lived during a time that such thinking had relevance. Today, it is outdated, and only serves to perpetuate the grievance industry.
     
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    well that's absolute BS!...my in-laws are chinese and they bloody well do care how they're stereotyped by racists like you...I'm an immigrant and I frickin care how I'm stereotyped by racists!...fancy academics? you mean like biological and genetic scientists, yeah clearly they don't know as much as you about their fields of expertise...

    self admitted racist? yup you clearly are there's no doubt about that...and you'll want to tag "scientifically illiterate" to the front of "racist" in your personal description...
     
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    Looks like you could use some sensitivity training...
     
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    I guess these aren’t insults ;

    I am already familiar with the cancer you teach

    You are extremely amerocentric in your worldview which makes you inherently ignorant. You should really try to broaden your perspectives!
    So I am stupid because I used the disability when you know the correct term is disabled.....lol...what does that have to with americocentric? I guess just another term you’re using incorrectly.
    I am also familiar with the bigotry you preach...does that make us equal?
    I’m. Not sensitive when it comes to bigotry.
     
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    LOL.

    OK. You allow yourself intolerant and insensitive responses to what you choose to label bigotry.

    I am sure that your insensitive comment is justified because you are on the "right" side and the other poster is "wrong".

    Do you notice your mistake?
     
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    I cannoyt see any insults directed to you in any of those posts.

    Jesus Christ! First, look up what 'amerocentric' means. Then, go back and check what the actual context I used it in was.

    I thought women couldn't be funny, but guess I was wrong. :laughing:
     
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    You know sooooo little. I'm going to assume you're not well travelled, and haven't experienced much beyond white western culture. Because this is becoming something like discussing physics with 4 year olds.

    Fact: The Chinese absolutely DO regard themselves as superior to white people. Quite superior, in fact. I don't regard them as such, I regard them as of equal value (they have plenty wrong with their culture ... no group is perfect).
     
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    1) I know very well what it means to be followed around a store. And even asked to leave a store (due to skin colour). Ritter is still right.

    2) My immigrant relatives have been subjected to all of these things, as have I in their country of origin. Guess what .. no 'internalised message'. That's some shiite invented by vacuous white folk, and apathetic POC just picked it up and ran with it. The only message that people like my family people picked up was "I'm not going to be held back by racist idiots".

    PS: If it takes 'generations' of apathy to get over your pout, you're doing it wrong. The best revenge is a good life, as they say in the classics.
     
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    That's because they ARE quiet and industrious. Jeez Louise.

    And yes, they are still discriminated against.
     
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    So very well said, Ritter. And SO true of the immigrant experience, versus the damned Cafe SJWs. I've overhead (in hipster cafes) tables full of uber white and uber insulated 'intellectuals' dissert on how it feels to be subjected to racism. Hilarious. They literally have no idea ... whatsoever. None.
     
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    Yeah? Test out that theory where I live. You'll find that young white males attract the most negative police attention, and migrant POC the least.
     
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    Have you ever left America, Ron?

    You know you're talking to someone who is not only well travelled, but who has lived the brown third world, right?
     
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    He's right .. it is what they think. And, your insistence that they care (about insults) so much that they are entitled to give up fighting .. is exactly the problem that non-whites are now confronting in America.

    Yes, the Chinese 'care' about being insulted. Who doesn't? The point we're making is that they don't allow passing negative emotions to interfere with the main goal (financial and educational success).
     
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    We have quite a few terms to desctibe them here; café-latte-leftist, red-wine-socialist and champagne-communist.
     
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    Bullshit, but, again, you are looking through a toilet paper tube at the world. Yes, males, throughout most of history control things, but lets not forget people like Queen Elizabeth I, Queen Victoria, Cleopatra and other great leaders who happened be women. One thing I know is that none of those women whined about "white male privilege".
     
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    We use other names for them, but none I can publish here :p
     
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    The bigotry of the "institutional racism"-crowd is even worse than that of the White Nationalists and other suchs whackoos since it is more subtle and hard -to-dectect because they sugar coat it in fancy terminology with lots of syllables (in-ter-sec-tio-nal-ty, in-sti-tu-tio-nal-i-sation, pri-vi-lege and so on) and other cutsey fluffy-fluff.

    What the "institutional racism/sexism"-crowd really is doing is lower expectations for Blacks and for women; "aw, you're just an adorable, Black/female, little victim of the White Patriarchy™. How are you supposed to succeeded when your kind have been historically oppressed, naw." See, the goal is not to "stop oppression" (because that would mean the movement no longer has any raison d'être), but rather is it to cement these beliefs into culture and indoctrinate the minorities. The scapegoat is White Men™ because they need an invented 'Oppressor' to brutalise and shame and in this narrative is - obviously - also required an 'Oppressed' to victimise and pat as if they were helpless kitty-cats. (The White Nationalist-cause works in the same way because SJW and Nazism are in the same family tree, ironically enough).

    There is now an entire industrial complex that solely focuses on these - mostly - made up-issues and if a White male asks "wtf?", he is immediately labelled a bigot, if a woman does it, she has "internalised misogyny" and if a Black person does it, (s)he is either a 'coon' or an 'Uncle Tom'. Amongst the rest, there is a constant cacophony of "I'm more oppressed than you" and "Is not 'cause I am the oppressessestest of them all!"

    Ridiculous.
     
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    Well, at least equal to it. The fact remains that racism, no matter where it's from, is wrong. Same for genderism, anti-religion or any other form of bigotry. Americans should be supporting both freedom to live as we like as long is it doesn't harm others but also the freedom to believe as we wish without Authoritarian Asshats telling us what to believe, what to think and what we should be doing with our lives. In short, we should be supporting the right to be left alone.
     
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    These white supremacists not only dictate the terms of the oppression, but they also dictate the terms of how their brown pets will respond to it. Should they have the independence of thought and temerity to say 'f u', and/or steam ahead, they're demonised loudly. After all, steaming head is 'white' (but only to black folk looking for an excuse .. as trained. the Chinese see only the colour of money). If you think independent thoughts, and come to a different conclusion to that of your white overlords, you're the Spawn of the Devil (see Kanye).
     
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    We did just that, 15 years ago. Not just in America, but all over the west.

    Then the Authoritarian Asshats moved in.
     
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    THIS!

    It is important to remember that the "Privileged Whites" who built America were once oppressed themselves and fled real oppression in forms of famine, poverty and genocide to seek a better life. Many of them were not nicely welcomed despite being white (most notebly the irish) and had to fight really hard to earn what SJW today call "privilege".

    And again, neither slavery nor Jim Crow was made up by "Whitey", but by government. Also was it "Evil Whitey" who repealed both these systems of pure evil. Let's not forget that.

    Why Blacks still appear "unprivileged" in modern America is an interesting question that requires real, unbiased and thorrow analysis. My conclusion is that part of the answer is to be found in the rise of the Welfare State and the solution to it sure is not to be found in "workshops", victimisation and quotas.
     
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    If you ask the average black person NOT living in America, they'll have a roughly similar answer. Many blame the over-indulgence in 'compassion'. It's no different to spoiling a child, who ultimately grows up to be incapable of taking care of itself.

    The reason, in fact, why many non-American born Africans and other dark skinned migrants do so well, is because they come from situations where they were not cut any slack, and had to work to survive.
     
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