‘It’s just horrifying’: Seven killed in Australia’s deadliest mass shooting in 22 years

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  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    There's nothing to argue. You're only about sweeping generalizations and name calling which is lazy thinking. You have zero proof people in the US are looking to get knives banned. You know it. I know it. We all know it.
     
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    Yet another empty unsupported claim.

    The public record backs me up. It was easier to obtain guns than pizza 6 years after the UK Gun Ban.

    "Chris, a stocky but affable thirty-something South
    Londoner recently retired from a career in armed robbery,
    comes bounding back from the bar with a cheeky grin on
    his face. 'It'll be about 20 minutes,' he says. 'Less time than
    it takes to deliver a pizza and plenty of time for another
    drink. Same again?'

    We are sitting behind a busy pool table in the dingy annexe of
    a pub on the outskirts of Catford which, according to Chris, is
    one of the easiest places in the capital to buy an illegal gun. ...

    Few will be surprised that the number of illegal guns used on
    the streets of London is currently at an all-time high, with at
    least two shootings and four armed robberies every day since
    the start of the year...."
    THIS IS LONDON, By Danny Brown, 2/28/02.
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynam...?in_review_id=509803&in_review_text_id=473066
     
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    Of course I do.

    The march of liberalism across Europe perfectly matches the same ideas, goals and objectives of their leftist counterparts in the US in every area.

    You know, and everyone reading this knows, that if "gun bans" happen in the US, that the violence will of course continue with some other weapon. When that happens, leftists will want to ban that too.

    It's in their DNA. It's the essence of their existence.

    It's the type of lazy thinking that makes them think banning guns stops violence.
     
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    When the stronger gun laws you support violate the Constitution, that is NOT common sense.
     
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    My position is taken directly from the Constitution and the Founders clear and unambiguous statements about the issue. Whether you like it or not, I have a right to keep and bear arms. I WILL NEVER NEGOTIATE OR SURRENDER THAT RIGHT; especially not in the face of people who sneer and dismiss the Constitution and the intent of the Founders.

    I have factual and historical justification behind my beliefs. WTF do you have??? You can claim you "believe differently", but then you're not only misguided but flat wrong. You can't ignore the Constitution when you find it inconvenient. You can't, the government can't, and the courts can't.

    Try to place unconstitutional infringements on my rights and I will fight to stop it. That's how strong MY belief is in the merits of my position.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for that; now the insanity of many of your posts make sense.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Constitution doesn't say you can shoot to kill politicians who pass laws you dont like
     
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    That's okay; I hold your views in contempt too. Your inability to accept facts is well documented here; as is your dismissal of my rights. Here's the difference between us: I'm fine with you living your life the way you choose. YOU want to take away my rights to make different choices than you. Ask me how seriously I take you.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    My question of a value measure was in response to Gamewell’s assertion that one death was as bad as 1,000 deaths. So,by your response I am sure you were hoping for someone to ask you to explain your answer. Ok, I am game; let’s hear your logic.
     
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    Yet, when their rights were being attacked and trampled, what did the Founders do to those who wanted to enslave them?

    They shot them.
     
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    Then why did they make sure we have guns?
     
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    only after the British passed some pretty damn extreme measures against the colonies.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intolerable_Acts#The_Acts

    Let us know when the Feds pass anything close to such acts, and try to disarm a State National Guard force.
     
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    Pray tell what supposed "contradiction" is being referred to on the part of yourself?
     
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    And yet in numerous states, knives are restricted to an even greater degree than firearms, suggesting a belief that knives are more dangerous and deadly than firearms.
     
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    Does banning "assault weapons" reduce the capabilities of the unorganized militia?
     
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    You’ve provided zero proof anyone is looking to ban knives here. And liberals can’t ban guns outright as they can’t repeal the 2nd amendment. So you’re stressing over nothing
     
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    Are there bans against owning AR-15s and thirty round magazines in any state in the union in violation of the Second Amendment protections?
     
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    If 1 death ss the same as 1000 then the Holocaust was a minor atrocity. It is the value measure of Holocaust denial.
     
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    the supreme court does not believe assault weapon bans are unConstitutional.

    the current supreme court, which includes 5 Justices who voted for Heller, have chosen NOT to hear any assault weapons ban cases.

    it appears the only AWB case the supreme court would be willing to hear is one that bans ALL semi-automatic weapons
     
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    As has been pointed out to you decisively before, you have zero clue why the SCOTUS has not not decided to hear a case specific to AWB. Your speculations are absolute pure hopeful fantasy, meaningless dribble and nothing more.
     
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    Can you share such restrictions?
     
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    It's quite possible that others may feel differently then you do about "clear and unambiguous" statements about the issue. It's all based on interpretation. Personally I don't care whether or not you have a right to keep and bear arms. I own no guns so it has no impact on me, but I can weight in with my opinion on the issue since the first amendment gives me that right.
     
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    sure we do, its cause 5 of the 9 Justices believe that the States have the authority to regulate which guns its citizens may possess, as long as whole classes of guns are not banned, like semi-automatic.
     
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    Your opinion is duly noted.
     
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    I reject that nonsense, Many gun banners are also the same people who make excuses for criminals and lobby against mandatory sentences etc. Many on the far left claim violent criminals are victims of an unjust society and its thus improper for people to shoot those poor victims who were forced to turn to crime due to an unfair economic system
     
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