Carnage on Gaza border as Palestinians shot dead by Israeli

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  1. k995

    k995 Well-Known Member

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    You mean you consider yourself the same as desperate brainwashed people? Seems about right, only with you its a choice to support fascists.
     
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    I don't see much support for the Palestinians these days in the Arab world.
     
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    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/pol...ctor-shot-by-israeli-sniper-near-gaza-border/

    A Canadian-Palestinian doctor was shot in the legs by an Israeli sniper and one of his paramedics was killed on the Gaza border Monday as clashes between Palestinian protesters and Israeli Defence Forces left dozens dead and more than 1,000 wounded.

    Does a doctor and paramedic pose a threat?
     
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    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/pol...ctor-shot-by-israeli-sniper-near-gaza-border/

    A Canadian-Palestinian doctor was shot in the legs by an Israeli sniper and one of his paramedics was killed on the Gaza border Monday as clashes between Palestinian protesters and Israeli Defence Forces left dozens dead and more than 1,000 wounded.


    Doctor/paramedic was rushing the border and being a threat to Israel?
     
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    Just watch the clashes its in every video and article.

    But not surprised you never actually bothered to look what had happened.
     
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    Yep, terrorist scum, the very vast majority of those killed and wounded had nothing to do with hamas, you do realize that?

    No israeli civilian here was in danger so thats completely besides the point.
     
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    Yeah.. that crazy principle ( Proportionality) .. the one that ever civilized nation on the planet (and some not so civilized ones) has agreed to abide by.

    Just way out of left field to want to abide by that one :)
     
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    Hyperbolic insanity aside ... the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians is not exactly WW3.

    That you would suggest that the Palestinians should nuke Israel is equally mindless.
     
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    Quit building straw men (would it have been better if 50 Israelis were killed) and get some rational thought and 2) Don't blame me for your ignorance "no such principle at all"

    Rule 14. Proportionality in Attack

    Rule 14. Launching an attack which may be expected to cause incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians, damage to civilian objects, or a combination thereof, which would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated, is prohibited.

    The principle of proportionality in attack is also contained in Protocol II and Amended Protocol II to the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons.[6] In addition, under the Statute of the International Criminal Court, “intentionally launching an attack in the knowledge that such attack will cause incidental loss of life or injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects … which would be clearly excessive in relation to the concrete and direct overall military advantage anticipated” constitutes a war crime in international armed conflict


    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v1_rul_rule14
     
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    It’s not about support by Arab world. As western countries become increasingly politically correct, current situation with rights of an Israeli citizen vs rights of Palestinians in their territories make Israel look increasingly like an apartheid state. Something is going to have to give - either a 1 state or 2 completely separate states.
    I doubt current situation will last much longer.
    And I’m not taking sides here, I personally have no dog in that fight.
     
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    That's referring, as you can see, to 'Proportionality in Attack. The Israelis were defending themselves.

    The ones who were doing the attacking numbered about 40,000, which is hardly proportional, and proportionality is not mentioned in cases of defense.
     
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    The Palestinians were warned not to go through the barbed wire and head for the fence. They did and some were shot. The fence is only 10' high.
     
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    Firing into a group of 40,000 unarmed civilians who are protesting .. killing hundreds and wounding over 1000 .. when not one person on your side has been shot at .. is clearly disproportionate use of force.

    I realize you do not care about the rest of the world .. that is not my problem nor does it change the fact that the rest of the world agrees with me.
     
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    Hmm...


    Defense is not sttack.
     
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    They were trying to enter Israel in order to kill innocent people, had been warned not to do so, and met the fate Allah had proscribed for them.
    The 'rest of the world' is ignoring you.
     
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    Stop the madness and please quit talking about stuff you do not understand.

    The Israeli's attacked unarmed Palestinians shooting into the crowd killing over 100, wounding over 1000.
     
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    That’s not what they say on the news.
     
  19. Thought Criminal

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    Inventing new definitions for words isn't conducive to discussion.
     
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    So you are a mind reader now .. you are certainly a BS-er - the Israelis have been shooting into crowds on the other side of the fence - in many cases where they were not trying to enter .. and not even that close to the fence.

    You are making up nonsense and trying to pass it off as fact.

    Sorry to burst your bubble but Israel is taking heat from every civilized nation on the planet ( Sans the Trumpster but including the US).
     
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    Sure is what "they say" ... the BBC was going hard against Israel .. as was most every other news outlet on the planet except some of the outlets owned by Jews (and probably even some that are).

    What "News" are you talking about -- Fox ?
     
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    Feelings often override facts.
     
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    Well, Fox would certainly won’t paint israel as a bad guy.
    I read the story twice - Washington post and NY Times. They both say Israel reacted to attempts to damage border infrastructure and break through.
     
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    It was when I noticed the BBC for the first time since something happened between the BBC and Israel prior to Cast Lead, acting like proper journalists asking pertinent questions and while still putting some cotton wool around it saying the situation as it is. It was when I noticed that that I felt we have moved.

    The Great March of Return was so terrifying to Israel because lawfully these people have keys to the homes their parents or grandparents were ethnically cleansed from. They lawfully have the right of return. For the first time in all these years the BBC at least started talking about the hell these people are boarded up in and the reality that nothing is done to alleviate their constant suffering and far from being 'bad' people, they are the victims. It isn't that reporters necessarily want to start telling the truth. It is that the killing and maiming by Israel and the world's reaction makes it impossible not to. Things have changed.
     
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    Do you remember the split of Pakistan from India?

    There was mass migrations of people from one side to the other.

    Should each of those groups just be granted back the properties that they abandoned?
     

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