Can you be spiritual without being religious?

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  1. TrackerSam

    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Years and years of study and research. No one is asking you to believe it and no one cares whether you do or not.
    You can begin by reading Jane Roberts, Dr.Michael Newton, Dr. Brian Weiss, or Dolores Cannon.
    You're never going to read them because your mind is made up. You're always asking for evidence but what you really want is proof. The evidence is in those books and I've seen spirits, as have countless others. It would be useless to present anything to anyone who's mind is as closed as yours'.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    What myths?

    Which religions are these?

    What does it means to "become brethren to Jesus?"
     
  3. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    If we are all a part of the one, which is a concept I have no problem with, then to say that there is no intelligence or knowledge etc. within the one, is to say that there is none of that in any of us.

    That is a concept I do have a problem with.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    More confusion.

    You are putting unconditional love in the supernatural that you dubbed the one, while saying above that no such emotions could exist in it.

    I recognize that such concepts are hard to express, and that is why I stay the hell out of the supernatural realm until it shows itself and is here to explain itself.

    The ancient sages said we could not know anything about the supernatural and they were correct.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    As an esoteric ecumenist, I have to have an open mind, but not so open as to let your kind of garbage fall in.

    Do you have a fellow witness that will confirm what you say you saw of the spirit world?

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Religion call it being reborn in Christ.

    To me that means entering yourself, finding your father Complex, and setting what you find aside and become your own judge and master and answering only to yourself.

    It means taking on the name of I am as your God.

    It means basically to return to the thinking of the ancients.

    http://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2

    Regards
    DL
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    How do these myths have a "Christian head?"


    These are all "homophobic and misogynous?"

    "Religion" calls it being reborn in Christ? Including Islam? Why are you being so general? Christians believe that they are reborn in Christ. It is the key to being a Christian. Are YOU reborn in Christ?

    What do you mean by "father complex?"

    So you don't recognise God as judge who you will one day have to answer to on judgement day?
     
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    That is because you cling to the idea that you are your body and its mind. If you realize You are not the body or its mind, then everything I said would be clear and you would come to see that spiritual Knowing has nothing to do with knowledge.
     
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    What is the source of this definition? I would say it's closer to something like:

    the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods (google)
    the service and worship of God or the supernatural (Merriam-Webster)
    a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies (dictionary.com)

    Where does your organisational angle come from?

    That all being said, there is no perfect consensus on what constitutes a religion. Then again, the wikipedia page on the topic doesn't suggest any particular interest in the organisation angle.
     
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    When you say "spirituality", of what spirit are you speaking?
     
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    From what I have seen, "spiritual but not religious" is superstition.
     
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    "Gnostic Christian" is an oxymoron.
     
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    Being Spiritual (Feeling there is something more) does not require a deity, in my opinion that can actually eliminate exploration and understanding of spirituality. "Spirituality" seems to be an individual quest to become more than we are and Grow. Spirituality is the search for the meaning of life.
     
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    No, it's higher your mind. By higher your mind, I speak of searching a goal in your life, a direction, beyond simply satisfy your instant desire. Stoician, epicurian, philosophical skepticism are examples of that kind of spirituality.
    Stoician searched for ataraxy, abscence of troubles, epicurian too, skepticist seeked for truth.
    All of that are examples of non religious spirituality.

    People doing yoga, meditation can be too examples of non religious spirituality.
     
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    Um...doesn't everybody do that?
     
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    And it doesn't ask you to tithe to the pockets of the church.
     
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    That suggests you are very young, or perhaps have a vision defect. I have read the works of many who are very spiritual, yet not religious.

    For example, Carlos Castaneda wrote a series of books about spirituality back in the 70's that was most informative. There are many more than his.
     
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    No, I am old, and and was once a follower of paganism myself.

    Aside from that, I know what the definition of "spirituality" is, and it usually points back to some kind of religious discipline.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    My Websters offers 3 definitions for "spiritual" that do not mention religion before it offers #4 "Of or belonging to a church or religion".

    What about yours?
     
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    Much or less.
     
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    I suggest then, you have your vision checked. I consider myself "Spiritual" in that I fully accept I do not know everything and thus seek to learn about life, nature, the Universe and anything else that may assist my growth. I am quite Atheist where manmade Gods are concerned, Agnostic about everything else and open to things not disproven or impossible.
     
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    Wikipedia and Webster's on the internet.
     
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    Or use fear to make you submit to the will of the church.
     
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    They are all based on the Abrahamic traditions.

    Yes. I have claimed pushing my apotheosis.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_complex

    In a nutshell. Where your instincts are stored.


    No. There are no supernatural beliefs in Gnostic Christianity.

    My religion is for active intelligent minds. Not brain dead ones.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Point taken.

    If you can say that you are not your body and mind/consciousness, then you are living a delusion.

    Regards
    DL
     

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