61 dead Palestinians.... why did Trump do this?

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  1. vman12

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    Of course they were. As a group they were trying to penetrate the Israeli borders and launching rocks and firebombs.

    If they were not part of it, they would not have been there and participated in it.

    Would you stand with a group of people trying lobbing rocks and firebombs at people, because if you would, you'd be just as much a part of it as the people actually throwing the bombs.
     
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    No. I say the people at the border were Hamas terrorists. Another poster said there were babies killed who were brought to that area by their mothers for a picnic.
     
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    So you don't have a video of them behaving non-violently during the entire riot or even of their behavior 20 seconds before they were shot?

    Fugures.
     
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    Which ones are throwing rocks and bottles filled with gasoline and which ones are casual protesters. A flaming bottle of gasoline comes at me and I am opening fire. You don't want to be shot, get your activists under control or stay home that day. Easy peasy.
     
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    Why does doing something that someone wants you to do - never involve self interest ? This is demonstrably false.
     
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    every unarmed protestor shot by Israel is a war crime.
     
  9. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Please quote the part where the law demands a gloating Party.

    In the mean time you might be able to answer my question: Why do so many on the right reply to posts without reading them?
     
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    Please quote the part where the law demands a gloating Party.
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    In the mean time you might be able to answer my question: Why do so many of you on the right reply to posts without reading them?
     
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    Ben Shapiro is reporting that at least 50 of the dead are
    members of Hamas.Which is a bona fide Terror network.
    Who use women and children as shields and as propaganda
    tools with a not a care in the world as to what happens.
    Hamas was vocalizing for weeks as to it's intent to disrupt
    as much as possible.But Israeli's are no longer going to allow
    themselves to be picked-off.Hamas was the one who broke the
    border,Not Israel.Hamas are the ones who built underground
    tunnels to sneak in and out of Israel Territory.
    Hamas was the one Again provoking violence by crossing
    into Israel and with explosives { fire bombs etc. }.
     
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    Yes! Nakba day too! It's as if he wanted to cause as many deaths as he possibly could.
     
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    So true.However the shocking part is how the American Media
    side with Hamas.This is one for the history books.
     
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    Right. And so does organizing a gloating Party on the anniversary of the day when Palestinians were displaced.
     

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    Right, and it is just a coincidence this takes place on the very same day Trump, Jared, and Ivanka are celebrating Trump's decision to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. That decision has consequences. Are you so naive, you can't see that? Jeez, man.

    Last week, against the advice of his SecState, SecDef, the Pentagon, our intelligence agencies, diplomats with decades of experience, and our closest allies, Trump decided to remove the U.S. from the Iran nuclear deal, or JCPOA. Iran, our allies, Russia, and China are trying to salvage the deal, but the U.S. sanctions make that nearly impossible. Trump intends to punish American businesses and our allies if they do business with Iran.

    Iran has threatened to kick out the IAEA inspectors and resume its nuclear program which includes uranium enrichment. The Saudis have threaten to acquire the nuclear bomb if Iran does so. Trump attempted to replace the agreement with harsh language. "I would advise Iran not to start their nuclear program. I would advise them very strongly. If they do there will be very severe consequences."

    P. M. Netanyahu of Israel was pleased with Trump's decision. It can be argued he was the cause of it.

    Two days later there was a pitched battle between Israeli and Iranian forces on the Golan Heights. Israel attacked nearly all Iranian positions in Syria, and 23 Iranians were killed. Israel said Iran started it, but that made little sense. The battle served Israeli purposes, not Iran's.

    In December Trump unilaterally declared Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. The move effectively removed the U.S. as a broker for Middle East peace.

    P. M. Netanyahu of Israel was pleased with Trump's decision. It can be argued he was the cause of it.

    On Monday the United States Embassy was formally relocated to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv, on the 70th anniversary of the formation of Israel. The formality and celebration created an almost surreal contrast to the violence raging barely 40 miles away.

    By nightfall, 61 Palestinians had been killed and more than 2,400 were injured in Gaza. It was the worst violence in Palestine in four years.

    The mass protests in Gaza were expected to peak on Tuesday setting the stage for worse bloodshed. The timing is no accident — May 15 is observed by Palestinians as the anniversary of what they call the nakba, or catastrophe.

    In a recorded video message played to some 800 people gathered at the new embassy, Trump said the United States “remains fully committed to facilitating a lasting peace agreement.”

    In a speech at the ceremony, Jared Kushner said, “When there is peace in this region, we will look back upon this day and will remember that the journey to peace started with a strong America recognizing the truth.”

    “What a glorious day,” Netanyahu exulted. “Remember this moment! This is history! President Trump, by recognizing history, you have made history.”

    Trump's pastor at the proceedings was Robert Jeffress, one of President Trump's closest evangelical advisers. Jeffress said, "You can’t be saved by being a Jew."

    “God sends good people to Hell. Not only do religions like Mormonism, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism — not only do they lead people away from God, they lead people to an eternity of separation from God in Hell,” he said.
     
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    The media is not siding with Hamas. The media is recording the consequences of Trump's decision.

    Trump and his fans are so naive that they think such a decision won't have consequences. Then, when there are consequences of Trump's decisions, they blame everyone else but Trump.

    That is the definition of ignorance and blind loyalty.
     
  17. Golem

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    Because Hamas is a terrorist Organization.

    I answered your question, now answer mine/ Why did Trump order a gloating Party on Nakba Day? Was the provocation intended to see how many people he could get killed? Is he also a terrorist?
     
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    The Israeli Foreign Ministry summoned Turkey's consul general in Jerusalem, Hüsnü Gürcan Türkoğlu, and asked him to leave the country after Turkey earlier expelled Israel's ambassador in Ankara.

    U.S. Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley walked out of a UN Security Council session when the Palestinian envoy, Riyad Mansour, started to speak.

    Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan opined, "Netanyahu is the PM of an apartheid state [Netanyahu] has the blood of Palestinians on his hands and can't cover up crimes by attacking Turkey."

    Nikki Haley is blaming the violence caused by Trump's unilateral decision to declare Jerusalem the capital of Israel on Hamas. Haley says that "those who suggest that violence in Gaza has anything to do with the location of the U.S. embassy is mistaken moving the embassy was the right thing to do." Is the Trump administration really that naive? Trump makes a disastrous, controversial, and dangerous decision then blames the consequences on some other party? That is surreal!

    Trump said the United States “remains fully committed to facilitating a lasting peace agreement.” Incredible!

    Jared Kushner said, “When there is peace in this region, we will look back upon this day and will remember that the journey to peace started with a strong America recognizing the truth.” Incomprehensible.

    Trump is dangerously incompetent. He is a threat to our national security and world peace. So far, Putin is extremely pleased with Trump's performance.

    And so are Trump's supporters.

    Questions, anyone?
     
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    Oh... I see... And Trump decided that the death of 61 Palestinians was the remedy for that, right?

    It is pretty stupid. Fortunately I didn't make it. But if you are competing for "stupidest argument" I believe you just topped it anyway.
     
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    Pretty sure the statue of limitations ran out on that because nobody that cried about it could actually win a war to say otherwise. Sort of like a common law marriage...
     
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    Because it was an historical event worth a celebration. Hamas doesn't dictate to us.
     
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    So the person who moved the embassy is a "beast" but the people killing each other are victims?
     
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    Why?
     
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    Don't go to the protest where there is a probability you could be caught up in violence and you will NOT be shot. See how easy it is to be safe?
     

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