'Identity Politics' is OVER WITH, Can We Get On With Our Lives Now?

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  1. Monster Zero

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    Isn't it just a coincidence (not) that every time the hugely corrupted Democrats and Mueller impeachment drive get caught doing something highly illegal in order to get President Trump - removed from office - the MSM creates some phony 'identity politics' outrage to change the subject ?

    Last time criticism of Muellers crooked impeachment drive was at a fever pitch from many Americans of both parties, and looking like the faked evidence bogus crusade it was -

    Rose McGowan said some ourageous personal attack to a transgender woman in public, and then attacked Bruce Jenner online saying because 'are not real women' they don't understand rape victims.

    Asia Argento dated Weinstein for 5 YEARS after her alledged rape 20 years ago, but the media again played a shell game of forgetting this highly questionable detail except in a few articles, most media put her atop entertainment page w/ unquestioned credibilty large font headlines, whereas The President of the U.S. is routinely the target of a dozen of large font headlines at one site Google News in a 24 hour period, treated as a criminal.

    Sleazy, alcoholic drug addicted actresses, get more credibility than
    the White House in todays America.

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    And when the sleazier Muellers crooked impeachment drive gets caught abusing its power, 'Identity Politics' agenda Hollywood does the tag team routine with the studio owned Cable Networks working in tandem to 'tag in' and make news, whenever the heat on Mueller abuse of power gets too hot.

    Bill Maher, serial racist big mouth, who blames Islam for 'the War on Terror,'
    or Sam Bee or Rose McGowan drop in when crooked Democrats need a distraction from their own massive corruption.

    (as if made to order)

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    Bill Maher has been a public racist for a long time. Here are the receipts.“I’m a house n*****,” he told his audience

    https://thinkprogress.org/bill-maher-racist-history-b1d9c74283cd/
     
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    That was just the declaration of war against Trump. The million vaginas in the march promoted by the Russian trolls would have had no credibility in going after Trump if they continued their years long worship of rapist Weinstein and continued to hold up woman beater, Schneiderman, as a hero. It would have been as hypocritical as worshipping rapist Bill Clinton and the woman who attacked her husband's victims.

    The real Identity war was declared by the Democrats in the beginning of the 2012 campaign and was one of the reasons for Hillary's loss:

    All pretense of trying to win a majority of the white working class has been effectively jettisoned in favor of cementing a center-left coalition made up, on the one hand, of voters who have gotten ahead on the basis of educational attainment — professors, artists, designers, editors, human resources managers, lawyers, librarians, social workers, teachers and therapists — and a second, substantial constituency of lower-income voters who are disproportionately African-American and Hispanic.

    https://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/27/the-future-of-the-obama-coalition/

    They planned to and effectively screwed their base of union members in favor of a race-based coalition, those with grievances, those in position to sell the grievances as fact and those with money to air the grievances. They developed a race-based propaganda machine. That is identity politics --- and we are just at the beginning --- unless Americans put their feet down in November.

    You might have noticed a slight rebellion when union bosses misappropriated dues to support Democrats in contrast to the wishes of the people Democrats screwed -- the people who paid the dues.
     
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    I read that the exit polls showed blacks did not show up to vote in 2016 to vote for Clinton, hence a major reason for her loss.

    That is why we have racial, gender, and sexual preference politics on STEROIDS practically every day in the news since Bernie lost.

    I posted 3 prog. blogs which categorically stated DC connected Democrat Party operatives control Black Lives Matter and manage their message, talking points, when to protest, and how often.

    Black Lives Matter will now forever be linked and remembered everytime you go by Starbucks.




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    Asia Argento is not exactly a stable person. And it is not misogyny on my part, either. Her own movie Scarlet Diva (2000) is a very honest depiction of herself. Being a big fan of hers and her father, I immediately went to get this at the video when it came out. Asia Argento portrays herself as a bi-polar,manic depressive, drunkie and drug addict who goes around maddening circles with her illness.

    That anyone would put her at the top of any kind of system of beliefs or core values is not really credible. And the same thing goes for Rose McGowan. I do not trust these people which I why I posted the article with Diane Sawyer and Ashley Judd who did 51 films in Hollywood, yet claimed to be 'blacklisted.' And on top of that Molly Ringwald, who we all admired for so many years, wrote some really irrelevant trash in NY mags that means absolutely nothing, her own experiences of abuse being almost ZERO. Dustin Hoffmans case on 'Death of a Saleman' was confirmed by staff, and stage hands alike it is documented. Some are definately real. But you're not getting a bunch of true repressed memory cases in Hollywood. What you have is a bunch of ill people, some truth with depression, mental illness, mixed with money agenda and opportunism.

    Again "Identity Politics" is so personal, politicians they're playing with fire, and getting burned. Black Lives Matter is really a police killing and excessive force issue, but it so personal and at a deep level having gone thru it myself - it has been amplified into "Identity Politics" but that is a shame. It should not be used as a partisan argument but bi-partisan. When you imply that one side does not care - whether it's males, Republicans or White People, then you've lost. And when that happens everyone loses.






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    This thread is a hot mess of paranoia and delusion.
     
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    Identity politics exists as a framework for the victimhood narrative. The millennial generation and Generation Z are only going to make it worse Millennials have made up classes that don't exist so that they can say they're oppressed and that their victims.

    They do this because they don't want to take responsibility for their lives.
     
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    Why do people act as if identity politics is only a “progressive” or “leftist” thing?

    Creating framing for shallow understanding as it appears.
     
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    It is just the juxtaposition of the statements by MSM, Celebrities and Reality

    some of the stories out there are so surreal out there you think where do they (MSM)

    get this crap. And like the fake, racist, anti-Russia warmongering hysterics it turns out to be pure

    crap like the America oil war agendas, and lies (WMD) ... is like the fake Russia election fixing news ...
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    Read this about Woody Allen : but if what he says in the following article is true -

    why doesn't Woody Allen sue for defamation?


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    Woody Allen: "I should be the poster face for #MeToo movement"
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    In an interview that was broadcast Sunday night, Allen said he's a "big advocate" of #MeToo, and once again denied allegations that he molested Dylan Farrow, his adopted daughter.

    "It's funny, I should be the poster boy for the #Metoo movement because I've worked in movies for 50 years, I've worked with hundreds of actresses...and not a single one, big ones, famous ones, have ever, ever, suggested any kind of impropriety at all," he told Argentine journalist Jorge Lanata in New York.

    "I'm in principle, and in spirit, completely in favor of their bringing to justice genuine harassers," Allen said during the interview with Argentina's Channel 13.

    "Now, if innocent ones get swept up in there, that's very sad for the person, it's unjust, but otherwise, I think it's a very good thing to expose harassment."

    http://www.nwitimes.com/entertainme...cle_2b407231-f3fb-51b9-a074-a57af98140b9.html




     
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    Not only that, but it eventually exposes the people who espouse identity politics for the charlatans they are. Their actual idea of bigger more expansive government until it takes over personal freedom isn't a winner, so what they've done, quite successfully so far, is to divide voters up into groups and then exclude one group that is in charge and dehumanizes them.

    Divide and conquer IS a good strategy, but it's only based on power, which they couldn't get if they were honest.
     
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    And I bet that is exactly the sons of bitches got the fake Russia Election Fixing Story ...
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    some moron Hollywood script writer, because that is what

    it DEFINATELY reads like:



    MADE IN HOLLYWOOD





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    And South Park continues to insult Kyle ( insert endless J word here ) the Gay slurs, the Islam, the "N-word guy' South Park episode, we don't need reminded of the HYPOCRISY. What was the gay slur that hurt them most probably "I'm H-I-V Positive" ?

    When you repeat "N-word guy' a dozen times in 30 minutes for a joke or a 'message statement' you're too much CNN and need to get off the air. If Seth of Family Guy/ South Park have more rights, OR A FREE PASS because they claim a false sense of artistic superiority or intregity,
    I say WRONG.

    You're hurting the down sydrome kids, the retarded kids ( one used to belly ache cry thunderously across the street from me it echoed in the subdivision, the mentally disabled hurt badly and they watch TV Seth ) for the taunting he received. But Family Guy Seth 'doesn't care' he said in a interview. So some Liberals or Michael Savages are MORE EQUAL than OTHERS. Family Guy Seth is a super star 200 million dollar man, loved by American Dads everywhere. But he is lower than pond scum.

    But I take it person-like when Family Guy Seth bashes the 'mentally retarded' kid ( and others ) relentlessly on his shows like the kid across the street, who was my friend. After 13 years of being mercilessly hammered and tormented, doctors discovered he heard sounds muffled was why he talked that way. He got a complex cochlear ear implant. And I gave him my Millenium Falcon and the Star Wars guys to go with it.


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    This chick has insulted more gays in her stand up and been hackled booed and scorned a dozen times for it.


    So Gay America - are you ready to be the next prop or one liner in this losers act -

    Kathy Griffin to be honored by West Hollywood for LGBTQ activism
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    WEST HOLLYWOOD, Calif. (AP) — Kathy Griffin will be honored Tuesday by West Hollywood for raising more than $5 million for HIV/AIDS services and LGBTQ causes.

    The city will present Griffin with a Rainbow Key Award as part of an annual ceremony honoring individuals who have made contributions to the LGBTQ community.

    http://www.heraldcourier.com/commun...cle_dd1c881a-5dd7-5e26-b12f-a27f8f80177a.html





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    Sorry no progressivism is not communism it is fascism with a face lift.
     
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    Whats strange is that so many of their identities conflict with others. Muslims with gays and women. MS-13 with #metoo. Illegals with blacks. But they all think the dems are only focused on them specifically, even though some groups, like plain gays have been kicked to the curb for trans.
     
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    The purpose of identity politics for progressives (or statists) is to foster factionalism and pit each group against other groups. When you have groups you don't have to worry about individual sovereignty or rights, which is a main bane to progressives. You also get inter group conflict that only a powerful centralized government -- the goal of progressives -- can manage.
     
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    Wow.
    ..........

    That is a really good point.

    I wouldn't have thought of looking at it that way in a million years.

    That was super - intellectual. You should work at a Think Tank or be in Congress or something.

    Why in Gods name do you have a Homer Simpson character for an avatar ?

    That Homer Simpson show is like the dumbest show on Earth - but you're a genius !







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    This post is wrong. The Progressive thing is not Communism. It's Astroturf criminal capitalism. It's created and funded by unregulated, criminal cabal capitalists, like those CFR types who created the Ford Foundation and George Soros various Tides fronts. These Astroturf groups get Progressives to try and support corporate regime changes, wars, faux Environmental scams like the Carbon Tax, etc. Tom Hartman will never admit Global Warming and the Carbon Tax was a scam. Tom Hartman will never admit the fact Bernie Sanders was a corporatist Democrat from the beginning with a Gazillion dollar F-35 project, and numerous Defense Contractor dollars and war funding votes. So yes, the Progressives are in "the Trash Can of History" as one writer said. Obama and Hillary were NeoCon warmongers started four more wars, and the rest of it. It sucked. I don't care if you passed Health Care Reform if you had to kill a half million Syrians and Libyans to do it. Obama and Hillary are war criminals, and that is that, you phony Hollywood, MSM bastards. Take your 'Identity Politics" and take a long dive off a short pier, it is divide and conquer.


    The NED which funded the White Helmets in Syria was funded indirectly by Soros /USAID which he helps finance thru other networks. Shaun Hannity had this ridiculous segment on Fox News once during the Obama years, where he showed a video of the White Helmets charging across North Eastern Syria, ( Hannity supported the war on Syria, idiot) and Shaun is seen cheering them on in his show.

    Democracy Now, funded by the Ford Foundation will support the so called "Soft Power" and "Color Revolutions" by NED, Soros, like Suu Kyi in Thailand, or the Rose Revolution in Georgia, or the failed Green Revolution in Iran: ( a nuclear deal is better than killing everyone in a war )
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    This quote is not a good one like the other one I thought was excellent. I don't think it's that way at all. MeToo is pushing the envelope, and being verbally abusive like (paraphrasing) believe me without question on Twitter or else "you are with the" (rapists.) But that is just Rose McGowan. More than a dozen of the 100 or so cases are proven so far, not including Stormy. Any and all accusations vary of course, from Dustin getting grabby and handsy (not minimizing ladies) on the set of "Death of a Salesmen" (was Hoffman a masher there, yes it appears so) or a casting couch accusation (no one is sure), to Dreyfus exposing himself. (which Richard admits he did).
     
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    Not really - shallow is the end result, however.

    When you have all the channels repeat the same lies - it becomes truth."Failed WMD intel on Iraq".

    It is lies. Like Samantha Bees apology ... she is not sorry ... she wants to stay employed.

    Like Richard Dreyfus non-confession, confession. Enough people can see the glaring hypocrisy.

    I've heard denials from beloved star Hoffmans reps repeated on TV, but it's not looking good.

    Meanwhile, attacks on Pres. Trump continue unabated on every channel w/
    ZERO proof by crooked Mueller in his anon leaks to the press, presented as
    unquestioned fact.



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    Richard Dreyfuss Accused Of Sexual
    Harassment By L.A.-Based Writer


    "“So I want to try to tell you the complicated truth. At the height of my fame in the late 1970s I became an *******–the kind of performative masculine man my father had modeled for me to be. I lived by the motto, ‘If you don’t flirt, you die.’ And flirt I did. … During those years I was swept up in a world of celebrity and drugs – which are not excuses, just truths ..."

    https://deadline.com/2017/11/richard-dreyfuss-accused-sexual-harassment-jessica-teich-1202206232/

    Richard Dreyfuss denies exposing himself,
    but admits conduct was often inappropriate

    https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/richard-d...himself-accepts-inappropriate-conduct-1646917

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    More comes out about Dustin Hoffman’s ‘disgusting’ on set behavior… it looks worse than we thought

    "Kathryn Rossetter, who co-starred with Hoffman in “Death of a Salesman” on Broadway and in the TV movie, said in an editorial published Friday in The Hollywood Reporter that the actor groped her and pressured her into giving him massages.

    This follows allegations made by Anne Graham Hunter, a former production assistant on the TV movie, who said Hoffman groped her and made sexually degrading remarks around her.

    Rossetter said Hoffman was initially very kind to her and helped her get the role, but his behavior soon changed and it “was the beginning of what was to become a horrific, demoralizing and abusive experience at the hands (literally) of one of my acting idols.”

    The actress detailed how Hoffman would place his hand on the inside of her thighs as they waited to go onstage, explaining that she was on a live microphone and could not protest — Rossetter said Hoffman became so aggressive that he penetrated her one night with his fingers."



    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/1...sting-set-behavior-looks-worse-thought-573534

    https://www.spin.com/2017/12/dustin-hoffman-kathryn-rossetter-death-of-a-salesman-groped/

    http://www.vulture.com/2017/11/ex-pa-says-dustin-hoffman-sexually-harassed-her-in-1985.html

    Picture 'that proves Dustin Hoffman is a sex predator who subjected actress to a string of abusive attacks'

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5163721/Picture-proves-Dustin-Hoffman-sex-predator.html
     
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    No! The left is not finished destroying itself yet.
     
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    Because crooked Mueller is a strictly partisan hatchet job by the MSM, and Hillarys friends in the U.S. intelligence community.

    It came about for one reason, Trump is a Republican. That is ' Identity Politics. '


    At the same time, Hollywood and the MSM are claiming moral superiority.



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    More on Hoffman:


    USA TODAY

    Dustin Hoffman accused of groping actress 'night after night' offstage in 'Death of a Salesman'

    "Since Hunter came forward, other Hoffman accusers have approached THR, including Rossetter.

    In an editor's note, THR reported that it verified Rossetter told her Hoffman story to numerous people over the years. Hoffman’s representatives declined to comment but sent THR to other people who worked on Salesman and did not witness the conduct Rossetter describes, including the production stage manager Tom Kelly."

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/life...fter-night-offstage-death-salesman/935242001/

    Dustin Hoffman Used ‘Death of a Salesman’ to Grope Everyone


    https://theblemish.com/2017/12/dustin-hoffman-used-death-salesman-grope-everyone/



    Five more women accuse Dustin Hoffman of sexual assault, including masturbating in front of a teen




    "The new claims to Variety, which Hoffman's attorney dismissed as "defamatory falsehoods," and The Hollywood Reporter bring the total number of accusations against the Oscar-winning actor to eight.

    Pauline, who opted to withhold her last name, told The Hollywood Reporter that she was 15 years old when Hoffman invited her to his home, exposed himself in his daughter's bedroom and masturbated in front of her in 1973.

    Pauline said she first met the actor while she was working in a Manhattan clothing store, and that they developed a sort of friendship in which he would occasionally pop in and say hello."





    read more:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...sed-masturbating-front-teen-article-1.3698941



    Dustin Hoffman Accused of Exposing Himself to a Minor, Assaulting Two Women (EXCLUSIVE)


    https://variety.com/2017/biz/news/dustin-hoffman-2-1202641525/


    Dustin Hoffman met with new allegations of sexual harassment, intimidation, and physical violation by former Broadway castmate

    https://consequenceofsound.net/2017...ysical-violation-by-former-broadway-castmate/


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    That sentence cost that judge his job. He was recalled on Tuesday night.
     
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    So many chicks I know set up fake Twitter - Facebook names

    It's not because of #me too either - they just like screwing with people !

    Its been going on 10 years at least so ...




    It's a wonder any of these political " Party Line " issues are getting anywhere.

    People are tuning out big time. This chick on Democracy Now said the Trump raids were done by Mueller on Cohens office ( no duh ) but it's like too litlle too late to sway public opinion on the media.

    The media got caught in too many lies, scandals, frauds, manipulations and so forth - so people are disgusted with the news reporters and the press.

    you can hardly trust one single media source if one lady makes a non-partisan truth on Television, they all lie about half of the issues . Democracy Now lies about war 95% of the time. They are mostly Democrat " Party Line " agit-prop.

    CNN, NBC, CBS, PBS are Democrat " Party Line " agit-prop, and talking points like Hollywood Reporter, Deadline, and Variety.


    But this author tells her story on how she hates men now - is it more divide/ conquer ?

    Who can tell - Right ? :roll:

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    How #MeToo Accusers Cope After Going Public:
    "My Hatred Has Deepened"


    "I hate this part of dating. My role in the #MeToo movement is something I want potential boyfriends to know about me, but without my having to tell them. It’s easy enough information to uncover: All you need to know is my first name and the fact that I accused somebody famous of sexual harassment, and a simple Google search (“Anna accuser”) will reveal everything — how I wrote an essay for The Hollywood Reporter in November detailing Hoffman’s lewd comments and groping when I was a 17-year-old intern working on the 1985 TV adaptation of Death of a Salesman. But it’s also something I’d rather not share with everyone, which is why I set up a fake Facebook account to link to Tinder, so that I can decide for myself who gets to know and who doesn’t."

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/n...e-going-public-my-hatred-has-deepened-1109891



    :roll:

    But why is the ladys 'hatred' only 'deepened' after almost 40 years ?

    I wonder ?

    Is she being manipulated ?
     
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    God I hope so ...

    It is hilarious to talk politics with people now days, they are so fired up and just want to label and call names. My favorite days are when I get called both a Nazi and a Commie in the same day.
     
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    And then if you talk to a Democrat - ya' know one who watches CNN all day ... they have an
    absolute meltdown if you don't hate on Russia or believe Russia ' fixed the election ' I thought
    this chick was gonna have a heart attack ...


    It was even in the latest BATMAN movie with Ben Affleck.

    There's Hollywood demonizing Russia again, for the Pentagon ... :roll:

    The big bad Russians are the VILLAIN again. Divide/ conquer. Yawn.


    :sleeping:

    Ben Affleck what a tool. Sellout. SOB war propaganda ho-bag -




    Batman v Superman - Bruce and Alfred first scene








    HOLLYWOOD


    R.I.P

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    Not that I disagree with your sentiment about Far Left people only watching CNN and parroting the info from it ....

    But come on, you think because a bad guy has Russian heritage it makes the movie "Leftist Propaganda"? (my interpretation of your words).

    Don't you think the fall of the Soviet Union created a massively large portion of humans who found a way to create wealth through selling weapons? After all, that dude is just a guy working for an American (Lex Luthor) by helping to distribute weapons (kryptonite). I think the theme makes some pretty good sense.

    If you would have used Wonder Woman as an example I would be more on board with your sentiment. The idea that masculinity causes wars and any violence is evil is silly and naive. That movie DID in fact bother me as it seemed to ignore the entire purpose behind why World War 1 was started. It is a dangerous game to try to paint a nation's intentions as "Evil" as that movie seemed to do with Germany.

    You think we would have learned our lesson when we tried to pin the entire thing on Germany, their country went to hell, then they had a rise of National Socialism as a response.
     
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    Actually I'm thinking - WHY can't we just have a BATMAN movie w/o being indoctrinated?
    And that now I hate Hollywood, Ben Affleck, Jeremy Irons for more 'War on Terror' BS!



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