'Swatting' David Hogg wasn't a 'prank,' it was attempted murder

SWATting should result in domestic terrorism charges for the person who made the call.

 

I don't think swatting is a joke. I would like to see them all executed by the jurisdictions where their crime was committed.

 

The cop said he listened to the woman I had been throwing into walls, for fifteen minutes CRYING, which was their reason for storming in. I had been asleep since nine, it was midnite.

 

And for whatever reason it is totally legal for the police to lie to people.

 

Police go where theyre told.

 

Executed by SWAT ... Executed ... of course. That is provided that this isn't a publicity stunt Hogg and his adolescent cohorts concocted themselves, right? It's not that fetched an idea ... I mean the publicity stunt, not the executions, which is ridiculous.

 

Execute even for a publicity stunt. The expensive problem and burden on taxpayers will soon be much diminished.

 

1) That doesn't explain your error in extrapolation.

2) Did the woman lie or did the police officer lie about what the woman said?

 

An exaggeration. They can lie to a suspect, but they can't lie about a cover-up or lie about evidence to the prosecutor, etc.

 

LEts waterboard him right?

There was no woman. If you don't think cops use RUSEs to get in, you are naïve.

 

That's Duterte's mantra too. What other minor offenses should we make punishable by death?

 

There was no woman. That’s what he’s saying. The police made up a non-existent person to justify kicking down someone’s door and shoving a gun in their face.

 

Which is usually where the crime is.

 

The police shouldn’t be able to lie to anyone (outside of undercover operations) as part of the conduct of their duties as government agents.

 

If they just ask, "Do you have Prince Albert in the can?", let them be, but if they attempt a swatting for any reason, hang them from the nearest tree.

 

Hogg stands a better chance of repealing the 2nd amendment than you have of seeing someone executed for inducing panic.

 

When someone becomes extremely emotional and insulting, it causes me to doubt their veracity.

 

While I agree, the courts disagree. Police are allowed to lie during an interrogation and, as you mentioned, undercover.

 

Lying during an interrogation, especially if lies are being used to try to force a confession, is a form of coercion.

 

Yet the courts disagree. Feel free to right your Congressman to change it.

 

Go figure, the courts whose livelyhood is based off putting people in prison supports coercive police tactics that result in more people going to prison.

 

I think that being in a closet in another building or at least far from the shooting where you were never at risk, where you never saw any of the event, doesn't exactly make you a "traumatized survivor". I once saved 5 people caught in a strong ocean current and panicking from a very probable death, and never gave it a thought that my own life was at high risk. I doubt if the people watching from a disabled boat a quarter mile a way were traumatized either. However, none of them volunteered to go with me and there was no time to discuss it. That is meeting an in-your-face challenge head on. I'm neither traumatized by it nor a hero, I was perhaps the only person with enough experience and guts enough to move at the time. Hogg would have been the guy asleep in a bunk below decks at a time like that, traumatized and heroic just by being in the vicinity.

Further, the unscripted interview with the kid shows he's a teenage jackass who already thinks he knows everything, yet shows incredible disrespect and ridicule for his own elders publicly. The contrast between the scripted interviews and the one quoted where he responded off-hand, show you HE is a joke- and tickled pink to be made a hero by people like you and the GC obsessed using him for a water boy. Someday he may become a man, but the odds are very poor.

 

When you are in that closet, you are out of control, you don't know if there are many, you don't know if he or she is coming. And the echoing sound is hard to pinpoint. Im sure you would be as brave facing bullets, as drops of water.

 

I will use YOUR right wing logic. If he is getting the foam up in right wingers, that is a good, in and of itself.

 

And he would consider himself a hero for surviving when he was sure there really were monsters under his bed. Directly equivalent. Fear of what you don't know is unreasoned.

Those people were caught in a 3-knot gulfstream current in 3,000 ft of water - and beginning to panic. Impossible to swim against that, and every minute pushed them further out to sea. Dead boat couldn't rescue them. Ever tried to rescue a panicked person in the water? Or five? As I said- I don't consider myself a hero at all, and I wasn't concerned for myself. It was a McGuyver sort of idea, I knew I could do it. None of that is the point- except to say Hogg was not in danger, faced nothing and did nothing to make a difference and is being credit as if he did. Phony heroism. He's being used and loving the glory, not about to acknowledge it.