Death of a Once Great City - The fall of New York and the urban crisis of affluence ....

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    From Harpers Magazine. What say ye?


    The Death of a Once Great City - The fall of New York and the urban crisis of affluence. As New York enters the third decade of the twenty-first century, it is in imminent danger of becoming something it has never been before: unremarkable. It is approaching a state where it is no longer a significant cultural entity but the world’s largest gated community, with a few cupcake shops here and there. For the first time in its history, New York is, well, boring.

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    Wasn't that before the UN moved into NY? :lol:
     
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    Interesting.

    First the UN was located in San Francisco.

    Look at San Francisco today.

    Then the UN moved to NYC and look at NYC today.

    Are we seeing a pattern ?

    You know what would be really mean thing to do ?

    Moving the UN to Geneva Switzerland.
     
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    What fun would that be.....lets move them to the M.E.
     
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    The ME is already a shithole place thank's to Obama's foreign policies and crooked Hillary.
     
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    So what you are saying is the UN would be use to it huh? :laughing:
     
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    LOL.

    Oh yes, we must acknowledge that it was Obama who launched an invasion because of WMD and later said "mission accomplished". He is also responsible for Abu Ghraib, the destruction of Afghanistan, and caused the Syrian civil war and all those refugees.

    Such wickedness!

    LOL.
     
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    Lets take it at one at a time.

    The military mission in Iraq was regime change. Mission accomplished.

    Abu Ghraib :roflol:Only Muslims and liberals gave a **** and whined.

    Destruction of Afghanistan goes to the Soviet Union and the Taliban

    Now the Syrian civil war was a direct result of the Arab Spring that Obama supported 100 %.
    So yes, If Obama hadn't supported the Arab Spring and armed his "JV" team (ISIS) that civil war would have came to a quick conclusion.
     
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    regime change due to a blatant lie - thousands of dead Americans and right wingers gleefully applaud

    Russians were defeated in Afghanistan - it was destroyed by your hero Bush

    Condoleeza Rice said Bush was responsible for Arab spring


    the Middle East destabilized, tens of thousands of deaths and many more refugees - all thanks to Republicans


    but let's say BLAME OBAMA!


    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
     
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    Regime change called for by the Iraq Liberation Act that President Clinton signed into law in 1998.

    Afghanistan was turned into a shithole country by the Soviet Union and the Taliban.
    Back when America was still great Afghanistan was a popular tourist destination for Europeans and Americans.

    Afghanistan During the Good Old Days. -> http://allthatsinteresting.com/1960s-afghanistan
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    Have you ever noticed where ever communist, socialist, nation building liberals, Alinkyites or leftist wars of liberation go. nice happy places become shithole places.
     
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    That's what happens when a place becomes so expensive the culture can no longer afford to live there. People are too busy working trying to pay their rents and mortgages that they don't have time for other things, not to mention all the whimsical artistic people being priced out.

    There is another related thread on this: The rise of the professional class in big cities - and others getting pushed out
     
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    Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
    The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 is a United States Congressional statement of policy stating that "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq..."[1][2] It was signed into law by President Bill Clinton, and states that it is the policy of the United States to ...
    Iraq Liberation Act - Wikipedia
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Liberation_Act

    H.R.4655 - 105th Congress (1997-1998): Iraq Liberation Act ...
    https://www.congress.gov/bill/105th-congress/house-bill/4655
    Passed House amended (10/05/1998) Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 - Declares that it should be the policy of the United States to seek to remove the Saddam Hussein regime from power in Iraq and to replace it with a democratic government.


    President Clinton stated in February 1998:

    Iraq admitted, among other things, an offensive biological warfare capability, notably, 5,000 gallons of botulinum, which causes botulism; 2,000 gallons of anthrax; 25 biological-filled Scud warheads; and 157 aerial bombs. And I might say UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq has actually greatly understated its production....

    Over the past few months, as [the weapons inspectors] have come closer and closer to rooting out Iraq's remaining nuclear capacity, Saddam has undertaken yet another gambit to thwart their ambitions by imposing debilitating conditions on the inspectors and declaring key sites which have still not been inspected off limits....

    It is obvious that there is an attempt here, based on the whole history of this operation since 1991, to protect whatever remains of his capacity to produce weapons of mass destruction, the missiles to deliver them, and the feed stocks necessary to produce them. The UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq still has stockpiles of chemical and biological munitions, a small force of Scud-type missiles, and the capacity to restart quickly its production program and build many, many more weapons....

    Now, let's imagine the future. What if he fails to comply and we fail to act, or we take some ambiguous third route, which gives him yet more opportunities to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press for the release of the sanctions and continue to ignore the solemn commitments that he made? Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction. And some day, some way, I guarantee you he'll use the arsenal....

    President Clinton ~ 1998…..snip~


    What happened there MT? What were you forgetting or really didn't know what was taking place? Which one was it?
     
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    The UN has been in NY since 1952.
     
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    Afghanistan was a monarchy in the 1960s.
     
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    Yep and since then, its been nothing but a stain on US Soil.
     
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    I disagree, but you are a Trump fn, aren't you?
     
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    Nah.....Trump is an ally against your kind. But your a leftist, staunch Demo supporter aren't you?
     
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    And Great Britain is still a monarchy today.

    So what's your point ?
     
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    I predict this will have a very big effect on NY's political and cultural exports to the rest of the country, and the world.
     
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    The Middle East has been a shithole ever since we helped create Israel in 1947.
     
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    I am sure it needed no help.
     
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    The "authorization" did not call for an invasion. And all those reports of WMD were debunked by the IAEA just before Bush launched his terrorist invasion. Every American who died in Iraq was killed by your hero Bush.
     
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    What does that have to do with your Hero Bilbo Clinton, and what Congress had already set down for the record in 1998?
     
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    This is what I always find fascinating to watch. The liberal elite show up, and suddenly, NYC is a shithole. The giant gated community of NYC. I suppose, from Harper's perspective, that boring cupcake shops would be better replaced with burned out ghettos in Harlem... To get the "culture" back.... Laughable...
     

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