Race and Sensitivity

We're We Insensitive when this came out?

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Or too sensitive today, as if seeking a reason to be offended.

Witness this popular commercial from the before time.



Moi


r > g

Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
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Between semesters back in the 80s I drove a Taxi at night. One night I picked up a cab. The day driver has velcroed the California Raisins to the dashboard.

I was picking up a family from India at the airport and they screamed and jumped out of the cab. They believed I had dressed up and pasted human turds to my dadhboard. They thought I was insane.

So I think the characters might have been taken differently by many than intended and their resemblance to human fecal matter and their character assignment as African-Americans because of their association to "I Heard It Though The Grapevine" meant in later years they became a racist meme on the Internet popular with the KKK and Alt-Right Nazis.

 

Could have used this - Buckwheat from 'The Little Rascals'



Times change and so does what was considered funny (then) is insensitive (now)

 

The difference is Buckwheat was from Jim Crow Segregation lynching America of the 1930s and the California Raisins were from a time when we were supposed to have moved on from all that.

Still having a Black Child Freely associate with White Children was actually against the law in many US States till 1967.

 

And hitting on the Irish today is no big deal.
Is it?

A case if reverse sensitivity with the passage of time.
As opposed to most everyone else.

Alas Archie Bunker could not be introduced today.
The creator, Norman Lear has said as much.
Only allowed now because he was acclaimed then.​

 

In the early 70s you could actually go into a Mall book store and buy racial and ethnic joke books in the humor section. They all were under the title "The Official (insert ethnic Group) Joke Book" Polish, Jewish, Irish, Itakian, . . . There was a whole shelf of them.

In the 70s we were Dicks.

 

We stopped tolerating and laughing at each other and started truly hating each other......

and it's all due to leftism...namely, their Identity/Victim-Oppressor politics. you see, for leftism to gain prominence in any society, everyone (identity) must be made out to be either a victim or an oppressor.

 

My favs were "Truly Tasteless Jokes". Several books over years.
The inspiration for the thread in the humor section.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/tasteless-humor.365845/
Amazing how base some of the membership is.

Oh, I disagree about being Dicks. Unless you mean Smothers.
It was not the joke but the company you told it in.

Buddy Hackett had a great routine of penis jokes.
He chose an older, straight woman in the audience, told a penis joke and asked her if she would repeat it. Although she laughed she indicated no.
Then Hackett would tell another and another, maybe both softening them a bit and desensitizing her until she laughed hearty at one and said she would retell it.

 

Big

YES!​

 

couldn't be more obvious. Obama's entire tenure was a veritable orgy of Identity/Victim-Oppressor politics, as was Hillary's entire campaign. at its essence, leftism is the art of convincing a whole bunch of people that they're being screwed over by a whole bunch of other people, and the 'fix' to that is to elect people like Barack "Acted Stupidly" Obama and Hillary "Women's Issues" Clinton.

they are salt upon the soil.

 

The Lefties support gaining social knowledge, progress and change. They dislike any form of standstill. And that's why they're feared by conservatives.

 

The Nazis supported gaining social knowledge, progress and change, and very much disliked standing still in Germany.

 

But there are more differences than commons between Nazis and Left-wingers.

The Nazis called themselves socialists, but they weren't.

 

The issue here is that you are all old.

The kids aren't into laughing at racial divisions because they bridge them. They see the humor for what it is, a nervous laugh from fear of people who are different.

It's just not funny anymore not because Society is hypersensitive, but because people aren't afraid anymore. Well most people.

 

you confuse fear and pity. the left has become obsessed with motion and care little where that motion will lead. they equate even the most destructive motion with progress and see convincing minorities of their victim-hood as social justice. of course, not just any minority will do. the ultimate minority, the individual, is also the ultimate evil.

i suppose there might be a little fear in there. not fear of what they will accomplish, but of what they will destroy.

 

@pitbull
@webrockk
Topic awareness please



There is a black man, a white man, and a Mexican man on a plane that is too heavy to fly and they are about to crash. They each have to throw something off the plane to save them from crashing. The black man throws out his Jordan shoes and says, "We have too many in our country.” The Mexican tosses out his lawn mower and says, "We have too many in our country.” The white man puts his item down, grabs the Mexican, throws him out the window and says, "We have too many in our country.”
@RBoy was that funny?



Who needs race sensitivity training?
Moi?
It is a matter in what company you tell the joke.
Not that the joke might offend someone not in the room.
And HBO will allow a comic to tell them although not network TV.

 

Before creation there must be destruction. Old stuff, which is no longer helpful and probably never was, has to give way to the new one.

 

Why does he hate Mexicans? Because Trump tells so? Another racist a..hole would have thrown out the black man.

 

Too rational.
Was it at all funny to you?
The funny has to be founded on a thread of perceived truth.



Try this.

A black guy walks into a bar with a parrot on his shoulder and asks for a beer. The bartender brings a beer and notices the parrot on his shoulder and says, "Hey that's really neat. Where did you get it?" The parrot responds, "In the jungle, there's millions of them."

And you might also check out
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/tasteless-humor.365845/
for further help.
61 pages. I'd skip the first few. It took a while for the spirit of the thread to evolve.


Moi

Where are the sensitive, offended ​

 

I asked a Chinese girl for her number.
She said, "Sex! Sex! Sex! Free sex tonight!"
I said, "Wow!"
Then her friend said, "She means 666-3629."


Any offended Asians out there?

 

these are the sentiments of a child. not all that is old is bad, not all that is new is good. creation does not demand destruction. it is always better to build on a strong foundation, altering it as needed to suit present purposes. sure we can simply raze it all, but we risk tossing out what is best with the errors of the past.

 

Nobody said that this applies to everything. But there are things from the past that are definitely worthless and harmful. For example racism.

 

You're so right. Kids are more evolved now. They don't tolerate the sort of casual racism we all accepted fifty years ago.

 

When I first saw the commercial I was like "what the hell is supposed to be offensive there anyways?". Then I watched it again and I saw the big lips on the grapes in the middle of the video and I was like "do they think this is a racial stereotype of blacks"? And then I saw that the grapes in the beginning, in the end, and basically in most of the video didn't have big lips, so this grape stereotype thing sure as hell wasn't very consistent. Besides grapes are purple.

Maybe I'm even completely off the mark and I should be offended at something totally different. I'm really not very good at this getting offended thing.

 

racism is NOT something from the past. continuing to accept institutional racism is certainly not something we want to encourage, but racism itself is an individual choice. no amount of legislation or social engineering is going to erase this rather extreme manifestation of the individuals' desire to associate and give preference to those they most relate to, those who look and act most like themselves. in fact, the use of force is more likely to enhance the fear that is so much a part of racism. there will always be racists. all we can do is decide as individuals that racism is not acceptable and treat racists, as individuals, appropriately. it's not something that happens quickly. i've seen the drop in racism over my lifetime, but even generations will never erase it completely.

institutional racism, on the other hand, is something we can eradicate and we're not doing a very good job of it. while so many pay lip service to their abhorrence for this scourge, their wrath is limited to its white practitioners. predominantly white institutions are consistently targeted, but institutions targeting or barring whites are seen as justified. it becomes evident that what these people seek is not equality or justice, but vengeance and retribution. their ignorance only serves to inflame the sentiments of those already inclined toward racism and set back the cause of true equality. the constant cries of racist this and racist that even serve to alienate those who truly desire that equality, pushing them ever closer to joining the ranks of the racists themselves.


an aside concerning "all in the family"-

i loved the show. it championed tolerance by showcasing intolerance in an honest manner. archie was no one's hero. he was the anti-hero. we loved him for his loyalty and honesty, but pitied him for his near complete inability to overcome the "truths" he was brought up with. he was indoctrinated, just as so many of today's youth are, and was only capable of seeing the larger reality in small glimpses. we applauded him for his small moments of enlightenment, but knew that his indoctrination was too strong and that he couldn't help but return to his former state of ignorance. it has often been said that edith was the true hero of the program. she embodied patience, tolerance and a quiet wisdom, all in the face of archie's blundering attempts at domination. if there was a villain to the story it was the son-in-law. while hiding behind the face of the long suffering fool, his smug self-righteousness mirrored the worst of our own generation. incapable of introspection, his allegiance to what we would today consider rabid progressivism was absolute and wholly intolerable. then, of course, there was gloria. too weak willed to fill her mother's shoes, she was a pale foreshadowing of the worst of today's third wave feminists.

of course this show could not be introduced today. what was caricature back then has become too close to reality today. while men like archie bunker have all but disappeared and women like edith bunker have been relegated to the role of "gender traitor", the michael and gloria stivics are now running things. their shallowness hits too close to home for the champions and heroes of progressivism to be comfortable.