To My Fellow Conservatives: Can We Clean Up This Mess Without Fascism?

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    You should get your facts straight. Both Hitler and Marx shared a deep disdain for Christianity because both considered it to be part of the problem. Marx was slightly the less flagrant of the two disliking all religions more or less equally. PLease note in the Bolshevik regime one was killed for being a religious adherent They burned synagogues, churches,and even in some place the occasional mosque. NOt all together infrequently with some of the members still inside. Got to get rid of the opiate of the masses some how or the other, and who manufactures it doesn't matter a damn. In the bolshevik world one cannot have allegiances to anything other than the bolshevik party.
     
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    Trotsky’s last name wasn’t really Trotsky.
     
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    Any government fascist enough to make your wildest dreams come true will in the fullness of time manage also to create your worst nightmare.
     
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    Did you get that quote out of some boomer meme generator?
     
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    So put a limit on it. Too much chemotherapy will kill someone, but the right amount could cure a person of his illness.

    Would you really lose sleep at night if we were deporting 20,000 illegal aliens a day? I think you’d be thrilled about it.
     
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    How many of those people who voted for Adolph Hitler had ever actually read "Mein Kampf?" How many of them were voting for HItler and how many of them were voting for change because where they were at sucked so bad? When you create a more or less all powerful state there will always come a time when it runs off the rails and starts doing reprehensible things. That like it or not is the lesson of history. And here's another boomer meme for you be careful what you wish for sometimes you get it.
     
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    I'm not advocating for Nazism. I said fascism. And as Brewskier said it would be a softer, more controlled form of fascism. It doesn't even need to be permanent. Once we clean everything up we can go back to normal.
     
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    By the way Ron, wealthy Americans based out of your home town of New York were funding the Bolshevik regime. Might have even been a relative.
     
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    The size of the police state that would be required to identify, locate, arrest, and deport 20,000 illegals a day would make communist China look like an Ayn Rand fantasy land.
     
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    Because it won't work. You can't force Americans to bend to your will. We will resist such things.

    Be patient. Progressivism is dead. All thats left is the stink and flies of its decomposing corpse, and those will be gone soon enough.

    We won't abandon Liberty in the pursuit of Liberty.
     
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    When have fascists ever just given up power without being forced into it?
     
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    Well it's not going to be a totally fascist system it'll be a hybrid mixed with other ideologies. That's like saying how are you going to make a wolf your pet dog when we're talking about a particular dog that is only 1/4 wolf which is much tamer and more domesticated than a purebred wolf.
     
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    Name a country that has ever had “tame fascism”.

    When you hand the power to destroy freedom to a handful of oligarchs, it will get completely out of control.
     
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    We'll be the first.

    By God we put a man on the moon we can do this!
     
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    The United States of America, with rule of law and a Constitution and protected freedoms, put a man on the moon.

    The fascist monstrosity you create after you kill the United States of America and **** its corpse won’t be the United State of America.
     
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    Complete nonsense.

    If we as a nation embraced Fascism and shake off all the excess weight that we're carrying we'll be doing all kinds of amazing things and you know it.
     
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    If we as a nation embraced fascism, we’d have to tear the Constitution to pieces and we would stop being the United States of America.

    I get that you hate freedom and want to get rid of “undesirables” like your heroes in Germany did, but America is never going to embrace that.
     
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    Not really. They already know where these people are. After the first couple of big sweeps the rest will go back home instead of living knowing it’s just a matter of time before they are caught.
     
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    Stop being dramatic
     
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    Progressivism would die without a steady flow of dependent 3rd worlders flooding in, but they have that, and there’s billions of potential fuel cells they can import to keep this going indefinitely.
     
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    Oligarchs controlled the Soviet Union and socialists were happy with that arrangement for generations.
     
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    Bullshit they already know where every illegal is.
     
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    And the freedom-destroying police state the Soviets had was definitely “tame” and not totally out of control, right?
     
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    You’re a revolutionary socialist because you reject pretty much everything that made America America, so I don’t buy your appeal here.

    But the US will no longer be the US when it has a Balkanized, Brazilified population.Thats where this is heading.
     
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    I didn’t say every illegal.
     

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