I challenge Muslims to boycott "Jewish" products ! Dare you !!...

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The OP is wrong.

    Jews have commit many acts of terrorism and continue to do so today.

    The Israelis destroyed hundreds of Mosques after 1949.
     
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    Israel didn't destroy hundreds of mosques, in fact there are hundreds of them in Israel right now.

    Israel may have destroyed a few, if they were used for terrorist reasons.
     
  3. Reiver

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    If we forget their human rights crimes for a sec, a difficult proposition given their magnitude. The most interesting aspect of Israel is the power of their propaganda and how they have managed to manipulate things to even silence left wingers. In terms of politics, they are world leaders!
     
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    The Muslims invading Europe from North Africa caused the feudal kingdoms there to (roughly) unite to launch the Crusades. That loose unification set the tone for Europe's eventual emergence from the Dark Ages, and then, The Rennaisance.

    Does that count? ;)
     
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  5. Reiver

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    Those dastard ignorant Crusaders fighting against the Muslim influence on maths, science, medicine and astronomy
     
  6. modernpaladin

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    Ignorant they were indeed. They knew not that the Muslims who had been raping and burning their countryside for centuries were not the same muslims they inflicted similarly upon.

    The European aristocrats saw no profit in attacking North Africa, the source of the barbarism that had so long plagued Europe. So they directed the centuries of animosity toward the Levant, against Muslims who had caused them far less suffering, but had far more plunder.

    The average peasant handed a sword and dubbed 'Crusader' was clueless.
     
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    You say nothing. Why don't you accept that muslim civilisation, in terms of science etc, was more advanced? If you need to be crass just say that the crusades was an 'oops' moment.
     
  8. modernpaladin

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    It most certainly was not 'oops'. The Aristocrats of Europe were very deliberate in their targetting of Muslims in The Levant for their wealth.

    But the fact remains that such massive invasions would not have been possible to muster if not for the animosity that centuries of brutal North African Islamic invasion and occupation had engendered with European culture. It made them ripe for the deliberately misdirected vengence.
     
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    That's a shame, given the intellectual enfeebled nature of the Crusaders.
     
  10. modernpaladin

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    Such is the inevitable result of feudalism...

    Also, Please don't edit my comments in your response.
     
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    That you managed to type that is impressive!
     
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    By which you mean.... what, exactly?
     
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    That the intellectual superiority of the Islam civilisation wasn't comfortable for the right wing limited that you naturally cheer?
     
  14. modernpaladin

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    So many things wrong with that...

    Intellectual superiority had nothing to do with it. It was about wealth- namely access to luxury-good trade routes from Asia.

    Feudal Europe wasn't any more 'right wing' than North Africa or The Levant.

    There wasn't a single 'Islam Civilization'. North African Muslims and Levant Muslims were quite different in culture, ideology and governing style. They warred with eachother as much as they did with Europe (and even on occasion allied with European factions against eachother).

    I don't 'cheer' any of it. Just because History (apparently) doesnt fit your narrative doesnt mean Im 'cheering' anything.
     
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    Not really. Was it about exploitaion? Obviously! You ignore the intellectual supriority of the Muslim communities at the time though. And there's a reason for it!
     
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    Plase don't edit my comment in your response. If you want to emphasize a particular portion if it, enboldening, italicizing or underlining are all great ways to do that. Thx!
     
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    Please don't respond with fluff. Was it about exploitation? Obviously! You ignore the intellectual superiority of the Muslim communities at the time though. And there's a reason for it!
     
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    Im ignoring the 'intellectual superiority' because its subjective, questionable and irrelevent.
     
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    No it isn't. That they were at the forefront of science and maths is a matter of fact. You seem to struggle with the bloody obvious
     
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    Just because Im not solely talking about what you want to talk about doesnt make it 'fluff.' You're not the only person in this conversation...
     
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    You continue to ignore the intellectual supriority of the Muslim communities at the time. Why's that?
     
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    They were at the forefront of science and math compared to Europe, sure. But much of what they discovered was discovered earlier in South and Central America.

    Which, of course, has nothing to do with the subject you originally engaged me about- The Crusades.
     
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    Why do you want to underplay the knowledge dominated by the Muslims? Why do you want to ignore the stupidity spawned by the Crusades?
     
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    First off- math and science advancement =\= intellectual superiority. More accurately, its technological superiority. Even before/during the crusades, while Levant Muslims were advancing engineering, Europeans were advancing liberalism and the Chinese were advancing chemistry. Which one is 'intellectually superior?' Thats a dumb game im not interested in.
     
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    The crusades were spawned by feudalism and North African barbarism, which was spawned by the fall of the Roman Empire, which was spawned by the split of the Roman Empire, which erupted over a taxation dispute.

    This historical blame game you're seeking is moronic.
     
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