Being White

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im human with pale-ish skin. Also dark hair, blue eyes, a longer than average torso...

    We're all different from eachother, yet all far more similar than we are to anything else.

    Much stupidity whether from the white racists, the anti white racists or the white self depricators/shamers.
     
  2. yiostheoy

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    If it were Greek it would have been called Ypologizo.

    NOT al-ge-bra.

    Jeeze !!
     
  3. Renee

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    Let me guess...you’re white. My husband had the same childhood, but he is aware he had an advantage being white and male. He was able to retire in his 40s and appreciates his advantage
    How did you learn your craft? What was it? Where did you get money to,start your own business? By the way, many of those black kids you avoided probably made it as well. My students who lived in the worst area in Brooklyn, keep in touch with me and many did extremely well.
    To pretend there is no racism just shows how you see the world...and of course that makes me a racist. That’s what racists do, they attack the people who fight for equality.
     
  4. Renee

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    Yes, let’s pretend our differences don’t matter. If your “longer than average torso” was dwarf size, you’d be seen the same? By the way, you left out your genitals
     
  5. Pycckia

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    Let me teach you a bit of history. The Greeks invented algebra and spread it through the rest of the Roman Empire. The barbarians in the West conquered the Western Empire, ushering in the Dark Ages when all learning was lost. The Arabs conquered much of the Eastern Empire where upon they learned algebra from the Greeks. Meanwhile the Turks cut off Constantinople from the West. The Arabs had their Golden Age based on what they learned from the Romans and Indians. As the West emerged from the Dark Ages they traded with the Arabs and relearned Algebra from them and so called it "Algebra. " They also called Arabic numerals "Arabic numerals" even though they were invented by the Indians.

    Genghis Khan put the kibosh on the Islamic Golden Age and it never recovered. The West did recover (that is the Renaissance) largely through the recovery of Greek learning from Byzantine refugees fleeing the sack of Constantinople by the Turks.

    The Europeans thus were left with the only decent (i.e. Greek) mathematics in the world and developed it to dazzling heights.
     
  6. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am glad to hear your husband got a free ride. I worked 2 crappy jobs and painted address numbers on curbs on the weekends. A sack of potatoes and a pack of chicken drumsticks fed me for the week. (Those were the good weeks) A major setback left me in a position where I couldn't pay my rent and I had to sneak into a construction site at night and sleep in the control booth of a crane.

    Where did you come up with "many of those black kids you avoided "? What black kids are you talking about?

    You put a major emphasis on skin color, which shows prejudice. Its like racism, but with good intentions. You even make judgments on how I see the world because of my skin color. Many, who claim to be fighting for equality are actually promoting segregation.


    On a side note, is that you sky diving in your avatar?
     
  7. Renee

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    I didn’t say he got a free ride....but he did get the opportunity to prove himself ...something women and people of color rarely could .
    I put emphasis on skin color because if you notice that is the topic of this thread, you act as though people of color don’t do the same difficult work you did...but they had a handicap..for example one of my ex students worked for an electrician who explained to him that a lot of people don’t want a black,person working in their home. They also had problems getting loans like women did. Please stop being ridiculous condoning racism by blaming those who fight for civil rights ....we’re not the ones who want segregation, what makes you say something so ridiculous?
    Was your neighborhood a white neighborhood?
    When my husband went down on the trading floor there was a great example of segregation...all white men with female secretaries.
    PS Yes, that’s me sky diving. I do crazy things because I have more nerve than brains :)
     
  8. modernpaladin

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    I don't care how Im seen. Just how Im treated. Im glad im not anything other than I am, and I reckon most folks who are different than me feel the same way.

    I try not to base arguments on things Im not willing to prove- like my genitals ;)
     
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    I am not the one condoning racism. I don't make judgments based on the color of someones skin. You assumed the kids I was trying to avoid were black. How did you come to that conclusion? I was avoiding dangerous gangs. How can you make such a prejudiced statement and them claim to fight for equality?

    I do not identify with race because I am not what you want me to be behind my thin layer of light skin cells. I am a one of a kind and would never assign an identity to someone based on their pigmentation. That is not how to promote equality.

    Side note: 2 of my kids took me skydiving for fathers day. I didn't want to do it, but they threw all my own words about overcoming fear right back at me. Good times!
     
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    Jeeze!

    A moron "teaching" me about the Greeks.

    I am Greek.

    I speak Greek.

    WE did NOT invent Algebra -- the Arabs did.
     
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    Like Popeye said on Saturday mornings of yore --

    You are what you are and that's all what you are.

    I'm sure God loves all his children whether black or white or some other shade of brown.
     
  12. yiostheoy

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    As Harrison-Ford said in "Blade Runner",

    "How can a thing not know what it is?"
     
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    Skydiving is the #1 way to get killed in terms of deaths per minute of activity.

    Maybe they are trying to get rid of you and inherit your estate and life insurance.

    My niece once asked me, "Do you have life insurance?"

    My answer was that I would never buy something that would give someone else a motive to kill me for it.
     
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    Top 5 ways:

    1 - skydiving
    2 - private aviation
    3 - motorcycling
    4 - scuba
    5 - boat and car racing
     
  15. Renee

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    I’m going to tak a risk and bet you’re a white male,
     
  16. Renee

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    Huh? Fatalities associated with tandem jumps were even fewer, with 0.003 per 1,000 tandem jumps. It’s one of the safest sports
    I think what was a lot harder was watching my daughter jump. And what made it worse was the guy who ran the sky diving was smitten with my daughter and he kept letting her jump.
    It’s about seven per million...much less dangerous than crossing a Street.
    You may be right about them wanting to get rid of me, is that why they tried pushing me out without a parachute? LOL
     
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    Link?
    My husband and I do 1,2 and 4
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How did you guess?

    Rhetorical question.

    Yes, its true, white males are the least likely to be concerned about how others view them (or, at least, less severely effected by it on an emotional level).

    The question is: why?

    Most typically, it seems the presumption is that white males 'don't care as much' because of the 'institutionalized privledge' they enjoy.

    I believe this is backwards. It seems to me that white males are privledged merely by being relatively unburdened by the perceptions of others.

    We all have a certain amount of energy we can put into life. The less we put into trying to appease the subjective, unpredictable and widely varied perceptions of other individuals, the more energy we have to put into our own lives.

    To be clear, I don't believe white males are genetically predisposed to this, lets call it 'social ignorance' (until I have a better term), but rather developed it as a result of having so many generations of cultural individualism. The Classical Liberalism that developed in Europe and North America never fully spread to the rest of the world, and thus most other ethnic groups have not had a chance to solidify the culture of individualism into their social heritage.

    Thats my hypothesis anyway.
     
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    Being White in Thornton Heath, London means that you're Polish/Eastern European migrant, or if you're not Polish/Eastern European migrant but White British in Thornton Heath, London; then you're off the radar, condemned to the scrap heap; the underdog who gets praised when proving this wrong; Who gets ignored in the community.
     
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    Forming an identity around your skin color makes as much sense as forming your identity around your shoe size.
     
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    I get it, people's people; BUT...
    Some people do and have the right to be proud to be this that or the other; less of skin colour, more of history and identity.

    Ever been to Black Pride events, I have, twice, been invited both times; I'm not Black.
     
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    Being proud of your skin color is like being proud of your shoe size.

    Who you are and what you've accomplished or learned in your life is something to be proud of.

    The quantity of melanin in your skin, which you had zero control over, is nothing to be proud of.

    It's like the "gay pride" thing. How is that something to be proud of? Should straight people feel proud of their sexuality?

    Makes zero sense.

    I will leave you with this though: tell someone you attended a "white pride" event and see how they react.
     
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    The Struggle of minorities in a White won world.
    Homosexuality was once illegal, Black people were enslaved and couldn't get the vote.
    Pride events celebrates Freedom.

    Since when was being White an excuse for the state to be shitty to you?
    Since when was being Hetero a crime?
    Only time a Hetero White person has suffered the same injustice was not for skin colour or sexuality, but of poverty.
    And no one's going to celebrate being free of poor white ancestors because that looks privileged.
     
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    Homosexuality is still illegal in much of the world, and black people are still being enslaved today. Ironically Africa is one of the worst perpetrators of both in 2018.

    All people, regardless of any of their physical characteristics, or any other metric, should have equal protection under the law.
     

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